jimmy white

each y,b season we see an increase in desease involving the bacteria e,coli. e coli is a normal inhabitant of the digestive system of pigeons, it has desease potential, but usually needs a predisposing condition to allow it the oppertunity to cause infection, several things can "open the door"for e coli to cause desease, stress ,vieal infections intestinal parasites, nd other irritantsin the bowel such as chemicals consumed while feilding , the usual factor of ybs is adenovirus, it beginsappearing when birds are mixed . either in training , races or when accumulating birdsfrom various sources the adenovirus by itself will not cause desease, but in the presence of e,coli, it allows the e,coli, to cause desease. treating e coli infection usually eliminates symtoms although it does nothing for the adenovirus infection, this is usually conquered by the birds own immunity system with time, there is not an effective vaccine for adenovirus. so we must let it run its course as we try to control the e coli. during outbreaks usually during outbreaks ofe coli infection ,, we use a broad spectrum antibiotic such as amoxicillin to control it ,,,,antibiotics will not prevent it so only to be used during an out break, the symtoms usually include vomiting in some birds , abnormal droppings or loosedropings and lethargy the birds will not train or race well during uncontrolled outbreak, a feacal culture and sensitivity study will allow one to use the correctantibioticto use, often we just go with one that has a good track record ,,and that has little or no effect on the birds allowing one to continue training etc, amoxicillin is my first choice of anti biotic when" shooting from the hip" it is gentle on the pigeon and is the least expensive of the good antibiotics use 3 grams per gallon for about 7 days , re- treatment is often necesssary as things may deteriorate within weeks after training , as the viral infection spreads through the flock, do not forget not to use antibiotics as a preventative, they will not work as a preventative but will only allow the bacteria to become resistant to it ,,then it wont work when we really need it ,,,,,,dr david e. marx d.v.m,,, by doc white m,a,d, ;D ;D ;D,, seriously maybe of some help to fanciers as yb racing starts

ooooh we didnt here of that ;D well done gemma ;D ;D ;D ;D

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good luck to all who have timed , and good luck next time round for the ones that didnt

well done to both of you :) a great birthday present

your quite right sammy , but funnily enough for the humans ,, not the birds ,, the pigeons are well prepared by nature for it to harm them too much , their nostrils are differant to ours alltogether , but as said b4 on the forum its wise for any fancier to wear a mask [which i dont, but should ;D;D] [hope thats not you in a mask at the side ;D ;D ;D]

JUST PHONED A FRIEND IN NEW OLLERTON ,,[ NEWARK ,NEAR] BEAUTIFULL BLUE SKIES S,W,S BRISK WIND ,,

9 HOURS ???????

BRIGHTENING UP SLIGHTLY IN THE LOTHIANS NOW,, CAN SEE A BIT OF BLUE IN THE SKY ;D,, BUT THE WIND IS MAINLY WEST NOW

good luck all, [hope the weather improves up this end ]

sun , 8,50,,light rain in the lothians ,,,,sw wind viz, good

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yes sammy 6 ,,7 days in the summer :-/,,,,when hens are tip top

a young bird sitting two babies ,,, if it works?, put the eggs back after return from race , do the same the next week , sometimes this can be repeated a few times with the same yb,s if its just perches you have in your yb section,, on a friday try a few ply boards against the wall,on the floor maybe about 2ft long 1 ft high a few nest bowls with shavings or twigs in them , youll find all the young cocks and hens in and out them and actualy get a bit jealous of each other,, repeated every week ,they get the hang of it and it can make them keen ,after the race lift all boards and shavings etc till the next friday

rubish fifestay ;D ;D ;D mon jimmy mitch and craig ;D [mon fifestay tomorrow ;D]

i think the weather looks a bit better for tomorrow ,, s and e winds may help them [thats if the satelite man doesnt change it again ,,

i remember seeing an old film on the donaldson bros,,,,dunbar,, great distance fliers ,, the birds had been picking at the pointing of the old stone wall for years , they wouldnt re point it saying it did them good [by their results at the time, it didnt do them any harm anyway ]

ooh sore one that lets hope he gets birds back tomorrow ] and i suppose to look on the brightside, if he does , theyll take a bit of losing after that

i would separate them,for about a week and ,, feed a little hemp mixed in wheatgerm oil

great pics,, thats what i call training ;D ;D,,,,birds in lovely order

;D ;D ;D think it is ,,,,joke macintosh selling them ;D ;D ;D

yes you say their early bred ,, really like darkness ybs ,, theve probably have had a body moult , they do tend to eat slightly less as when body moulting [thats when they really need the grub ] but nowt wrong with them if their comming like that

don tell me your racing eggs now vic ;) ;D,think your right about the forecast , but the weather has been so changable so quick all year ,,,good luck anyway

if they went off line they would certainly be" mist" ;D ;D ;D,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, mate had is birds away this morning , short chuck but all home,, but looking out now its a horrible night wet, misty, yuk,,, forecast seems a bit better tomorrow

great pics ,, lovely looking birds , liked the pic of the bird flying on to your hand