jimmy white

great pic chat shall frame it .you def look the part ;D ;D

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yes maybe got something thee roland , you need a few bob to keep you ticking over but some people make it their god

well done stu,, you enjoy your drink ;D ;D ;D you deserve it

seemed a strange sort of day, most feds about scotland were round about ridsdale otterburn and some a bit further ,, but some feds had great returns others had poor returns ,,,queer old game the pigeons,[especialy the yb,s]

in my opinion ,,",setting up a pigeon for a race" is really a big question ,,first of all there's the moult ,,they will moult differently on different systems , but once a pigeon is paired up and after rearing its first round will begin to cast its first flight , usually after sitting 12days approx on its second round , an ideal condition [all-though there's always exception to the rule] is when a pigeon has thrown its first flight and the second flight just beginning to" burst through",,once they have started moulting these flights they will continue,, this is why birds destined for the bigger or longer races [on natural] are paired up to suit this condition in the moult , but there's many other things to consider [there definitely are families of birds that moult slower] first of all i would say know your individual pigeons and know their best nesting condition for keenness , then off course if this bird is to fly a long distance race, it must not be "overdone" previous to the race, it must carry the right amount of fats [this could vary from race to race i,e head wind ,,tail wind , this is the one thing we dont know till their liberated ,, so "setting up a pigeon for a race" is really a big question and very difficult to get right as you dont know what the race will be like i,e velocity wise ,, the worst thing to do in conditioning birds for the distance [on natural] is mating to early and training to early and giving them too many aces ,if a bird was paired on natural in january , by the time the big race came , the bird would be on its 5th flight and preparing itself for a body moult , this pigeon would proove " not to be set up " as it wouldnt be in its best condition for a race in july ,,sorry for the long post but this is a question which a lot would come in to it ,and really couldnt be eplained in a short post, there are many videos ,books etc that go in to this in depth and worth the reading

one of the best pigeons i ever had ,,done nothing as a yb , in fact was" lost" for a while,as a yb but in doing so, only had 3 races as yb :-/ strange things pigeons

sorry just noticed your post :X ;D but think youve got the message [pardon the pun ;D] now ,,good luck

i was in truro, cornwall visiting ,, for a week or so,,[ to a pigeon lady friend ;D] however we took her g children to the park and fed the pigeons etc ,, i spotted one with a ring on ,,caught it ,couldnt believe it,,it was a pentland fed bird [my own district in the lothians ] almost 500 miles away in a park ,,,wonder what odds ladbrokes would give for that ;D

aha ;D think your getting attached to it ok ;D and i think the bird is getting attached to you ;D ;D why not report it and explain to the guy and ask him to transfer it to you, it might be a good cross to your whites as they could well be inbred you might have a future champion team of ;D van pecked hens ;D ;D ;D well it sounds good ;D ;D ;D good luck with it

bought a pencil blue pied van den bosch 51st and 52cnd gold cup race rennes 555 miles approx ,,2 years on the trot i didnt want the pedigree,,just the prize certificates

my brother was telling me about this ,during the week ,, just wonder if the insurance company's would blame this as" an act of god" to stop them paying out ,,,,,,mans fault ,,,whichever way you look at it

aye its true what they say , roland,, money is the route of all evil,, don't think its the money its the" greed "

believe it or not ,,[see scotlands own book 199? [forgot the year ] i topped the fed with a bird rung out of a barn, 62 miles but unfortunately , never scored again i gave the bird away to an old fancier ,who wanted it for a pet along with the certificate a van barn ;D ;D ;D,,never the less, true

please give him my kindest regards ,and hope his health improves

good to see posts like this :) ,,good luck to you both

once you've had pigeons once , although the keenness might drift a little :) but you can be sure it will return steve

yes quite agree,, free ones are good their free :-/ :-/ :-/ ;D with the right management and the right know how , they have as much chance as any

yip ;D still three ;D but need to improve on positions [couple of hundred ;D ;D] but still in it ;D ;D

through reporting birds have made some great, life long freindships ,and some new ones ,,cant be bad can it

your beginning to make a habit of winning ;D ;D ;D ;D this is just not good enough ;D ;D ;D well done ,,again andy ;D your birds flying very well ,good luck to you :) [dont tell wiley you won the pool with his bird ;D hell be after the cash ;D ;D ;D],,well done to both of you

thught the 5th hotspot race was aug 26th??? :-/

oops,, never checked yesterday ;D ;D ;D [maybe spoke too soon ;D ;D ;D]

best of luck to all

a fancier i know,, still has three in ;)