jimmy white

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main thing is peace and quiet and rest reheydration salts help [in my opinion[ but if birds havent recovered yet ,,safer in the loft ,,,they fight another day

thats minerals their picking for :) unless their looking for a lift ;D

ybs should be trained about 10 weeks old [but basket training helps b4 this i,e learning them to eat and drink out the basket , train your yb,s fairly peckish but not starving , you can start as you say then work up to anything up to 50 miles ,but 30 miles would be ok, but when they reach this stage train every day [weather permitting] double them up if you have time [as this does take time to do properly] allways reward them and get them in asap , but as the last post suggests theres many pages on the forum well worth looking at , this will give you lots of ideas that may suit you ,,,best of luck jw

there are many multivits for sale by different names makers etc,,most contain the same roughly, but if you ever run short try a few drops of baby vit drops in the water is as good

jack didnt ;D ;D ;D

i think confidence in owner ,, seeing the surroundings, goes a long way in breaking them

got a few darkness ybs [after losing one and breaking one in 4 days ] these were from a distance away ,snipped the unmoulted flights [seemed cruel but not so] this way they were out, seen the place , able to bath etc get a little sun [position themselves],hand full of my own moulting mix outside ,then fed inside walloping through moult now , flying from roof to loft every day now . one i lost was reported 14 days later ,,out the next day , flying freely with them now , tame as can be

settled this years ybs from 5 miles away in 4 days by putting them in basket each day on top of loft ,,feeding conditioner to others around the basket , letting them see this, each evening put conditioner in sputnick ,lifted each bird singly held them for a min or two let them see around then popped into sputnick , after 4 days let them out hungry let them have a pick then got them right in , then extended this , they were flying around in a few days

black cock flown alencon , never was paired that season , simply paired the bird , started driving like mad ,,out with hen homed in 4 days [it didnt know quite where it was ,just kept driving the hen , after hen layed settled no prob [flew 400 mile this year after 133 mile trainer ]

ive been very lucky breaking pigeons quickly ,, one example receiving pigeon after flying dorchester 21 days later to the day was 101st sartilly ,,this bird i took along with its mate nest pan and eggs , as they were in bottom left box in old loft , put them in same box in my loft , with a board in front of box,, gradually shifted the board further back [as they sat ok] but were a bit wary , anyway , bit by bit managed to do without the board and kept them sitting , once they were loose in the loft and still sitting [cock locked in sputnick then let in to sit ] then let cock out , retreived it a couple of times the same day [previous owner about 5 miles away] the bird went back to an emty loft [no boxes] then began to look as if was heading my way , so it was then locked out and chased then returned to me, this was all done in a few days it then had one training toss ,,,north,,from freuchie, and dropped to me ,,it was then sent 505 miles dropped early next morning and should have been 92nd [nat had wrong distance] but it wasnt making much differance, so accepted position ,,,but all this was in 21 days

as sammy said along with cod liver oil or wheat germ oil [or both] a great supplement when feeding youngsters also for racing [but a bit less] take a tablespoon yourself , chew it , its lovely, just like milk

i have a thing about this [could be well wrong, but proved right in my case] especialy distance pigeons ,, i would prefer birds that have been winning regular in the terrain you stay in , i,e a bird winning a 500 mile race in holland maybe differant winning in scotland ,,,so again horses for courses :-/

used to show a lot,, judged many shows, s h u show, peterlee show many others but now just show on "for fun show" on pigeonbasics ,,,good fun

ive found the best way to send eggs in in a loaf of bread , pull out the dough and place each egg in packed between the dough ,,,,,,,,,,,and if that fails ;D at least youll have an egg sandwich ;D ;D [no, but seriously have done this in the past and it worked ]

dont know what the beetle was [maybe mrs mcartnay ;D , seems a bit of a crawler ;D but huh ;D ;D ;D anyone can tell what the butterfly is, its lesser spotted ,striped, carlsberg sight seeing butterfly, very rarely seen , more commonly seen after drinking carlsberg specials for three days ;D ;D ;D

true,, a pigeon nut ;D i think ill get married jimmy, to get a garden for pigeons ;D

maybe a school bell ;D ;D ;D only kidding a handfull of coditioner on the floor on their home comming, theil soon all try to be in first ,,,to get a seed

as soon as youve finished wanting yb,s off them ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i have found in the past that 3 or 4 younger stock cocks [obviosly flying out ] help keep a w,hood team fresh and on their toes if seperated early [and basketed while cocks are away a race till monday on longer races, sunday in shorter races ] and the stock cocks keep healthier for it

as i said b4 black minerals contain mostly salt ,, if this is dry powdery good ventilation and humidity , this can be accomplished by heaters , fresh air, or even just heaters , the choice is with the fancier,,,, but a galley pot of damp black minerals, will cause many problems , a haven for cocci ,worm oocysts etc etc ,

the bird that lays the golden eggs yb,s going cheep ;D ;D ;D

just noticed :B :B :B theres postings on competitions on this

i got one of them in a fish supper ,,,took it right back to the shop, and pointed it out,, the owner said "thats just fat" i said "no wonder , its been eating all my chips ;D ;D ;D"

sounds to me like heavy respiratory desease ,,,causing secondry infections

i have a theory on alcohol ;D ;D ;D the more fanciers drink , the more races theve won ;D ;D ;D