Yeah talking to some of the guys yesterday from Midland fed, and they were commenting how good this site can be, however some people don't half write some rubbish. We have an old club basket and we put it on landing board and the y/b go in themselves after a day of two we feed them titbits and put water troughs on baskets every other day for a while prior to Racing. Some still look for a drink on there return cause there dry. Good luck with doo Derek