Whats it called Cumbernauld

Blackjack Harky both spot on,will try the beer mat steeped in cresote myself thanks

Now you talking my language mate.This is a great site we should encourage but we also at times need to be frank.Best learning things by not only our own mistakes, but by mistakes of other. Enjoyed the chat and wish you all the best

That the whole point of this kind of site, good to look at all points of view .I would guess, however this fancier is aspiring to be a winning fancier,rather than trying to maintain his place at the top. Call it a wild guess mate Will let him get back to let us know.

Harky, Your right however his newly acquired cock one would assume he acquired it cause, its better than what he's got thus he should think in terms of replacing and not unnecessarily adding to.

I would argue mate if you take a close look you are not a hen short, but have an extra cock. You may think this is just playing with words, however if you have an odd number round down not up. All the best

Take the time to find out who is doing it in your area, best not go to the flat planes of Belgium or Holland. Don't be slow at going forward. If you don't ask you don't get. If the price is out of your reach wait till you can afford it. Though many will tell you they have bought six for £100 from this that or the other do not repeat do not base your loft or build your foundation on this .It takes to long to prove one way or the other. Take the chance out of your quest to have a solid foundation. Remember Go local when you can.

Lets take out for a minute where the birds come from. You see it is much more important for the new start to ask a seasoned fancier how he does it rather than what he does it with (Strain) 1. How he trains 2. What he feeds and how he feeds 3. His loft environment 4. and a million other questions. He could be winning out of sight, with whatever strain he has,however the contributing factor is how he managers his birds as above. This Fancier is likely to stay near or around that strain.He knows how to get the best from them. He is the racer of his birds,. As well as of course to the original breeder of these pigeons. it is to him much respect should go. The unsuccessful fancier,it could be argued is still looking for that strain of birds that fit his management system.Here perseverance is the key. To many birds disregarded to easily. I would argue it would take anything up to 7/8 years to fully begin to test a strain. It is at this point, that is the downfall of many aspiring fanciers. Get the real deal initially, and stick with then concentrate on loft management, learn as much as you can from those that are or have been successfully with these birds When sucess arrives take the accolade you and the original breeder deserves,for you will have earned it. Remember the full and true story ,will not come to light on this, for around ten years.By which time for most fanciers it is to late Sorry to go on on on and on Thanks for listening

Lets take out for a minute where the birds come from. You see it is much more important for the new start to ask a seasoned fancier how he does it rather than what he does it with (Strain) 1.How he trains 2. What he feeds 3. His loft environment

This looks great.I would be more for gap round base of front and of sides at floor level. This gap is best emulated at fear of loft at roof level .This allows air to come in at ground level, and go out at roof level. Best way to ventilate loft mate, nothing wrong with doing this in addition to your louvers. It also allows your floor to stay dry which is of great benifit when it comes to the health of your birds. Please p m me if you would like more help or advice not a problem. I have built 3/4 lofts over the years which helps a lot at the planning stage.

Apart from historical reasons why are feds not more in line with local gov regions. How many lofts for instance in the Midland fed, are geographically in North or south Lanarkshire. Talk of secret meetings on breakaway feds on one hand, and arguments about east or west on the other. surley we would be better securing our sport for many years to come, by whole sale amalgamation. This fed could be broken into sections and clubs as appropriate.Get away from perocial inward thinking and embrace our fellow fanciers fron just along the road any support for this or is it to late?

Can anyone tell me if these white pigeons have more hawk attacks or not thanks

That be very much up to them.The reason we use velocity is in order to include the distances of each loft in the calculation of yards per min. IN national races this will be 100 of miles in difference. In Scotland we all know Annan does well in these races,however they are not unbeatable as history will show you. thus it is not just fanciers from that area that compete In shorter races this is courses of greater importance as is the provaling wind direction. it maybe worth arguing that not to include wind direction and wind speed in calculating the result may be wrong. You may then conclue from this, and agree or disagree not always the best performance wins the race Taking all this into account, we should be of mind to race against all comers. The wind direction and its strengths will change as will the results. Sure we can think of birds that was off the result, but when you examine its performance thats what tells the true story. A good example of this maybe if you could choce a pigeon from the first 50 in a national we would very often not necessarily pick the winner ? yeah

Thanks for this delboy, Democracy is a powerful tool,however it can also be destructive.Many will talk with there feet on this issue again reducing this once great Federation of yours

East or west is a question that has dogged our sport for as long as i can remember.I have been away from birds for quite a number of years,so long until tonight i forgot some of the main reasons behind me quiting the sport. Now its all coming back to me. The midland fed is no longer the midland fed it was all these years ago. Our great sport was never about divide and conquer. those who are narrow minded enough to put there own needs to have an advantage before the needs of the birds simply don't deserve a vote. It is to these fancies who have over the years split the midland fed for there own gain that much of the blame lies. The pigeon gods will indeed be much needed

Don't be scared to make your own mistakes. Listen to others 1. Good sound Pigeons tried and tested 2. Well ventilated and dry loft 3. test your birds in the first two seasons 4. never over medicate your birds 5. Never over crowed your loft 6. Get a routine with your birds and stick to it 7. A good late bread is worth its weight in gold (be patient in its second year) 8. Don't let setbacks get you down, if at first you don't succeed try and try again Best of luck

Brewers yeast and cod liver oil worth the coppers they cost.If you have money spend it on the best birds you can find. If it is not in your birds you can feed them on gold pellets, which would make no difference to there performance as I am sure most will agree

Hi many years since thought about this have been away from sport some 15 years. use to write in the B H W under whats it called Cumbernauld.Just finding my way round this great site To many lossed byoung birds to race them all though would have no option in first few seasons