Whats it called Cumbernauld

DOVEscot, whats your thoughts on this subject.Think in our sport the tail wagging the dog, rings true Much work to be done, in order to bring us anywhere near being in a position to look for or actively seek new members Cheers Rab

pjc , The power to include or exclude should not lie at club level. The sport from this point of view need a complete over hale. the choice of which club should lie with the fancier,within reason of course. Clubs draw up their own radius,this should be dictated at fed or even union level. Now I am away off on one. politics in our sport is not democratic due to lack off interest due to apathy. Cheers Rab Smith

pjc you stay on your soap box cause your right. rab

Well Done pjc Cheers

This club needs to be named and allowed to give an explanation. Tin pot dictators springs to mind just not real.But alas one of the many reasons why one loft races will dominate our sport in years to come. Takes the discussion making out of the hands OF THOSE WHO are unable to debate, understand, and act accordingly. Sad day indeed.looking forward to hering more on this issue. Cheers Rab Smith

Good Man

Do be care full of predictors. Don't want to get this far and loss him. Up till now he has looked after himself, and his self preservation. Just be careful mate Cheers Rab Smith

Same to you Sapper, have a happy easter one and all Cheers Rab

Alf all the best to your entries mate,bit a luck you never know mate.Got to be in it to win it mate Cheers Rab

pjc have to agree here worth thinking about bob Cheers Rab

Looks real nice mate all the best with it Cheers Rab Smith

The Edinburgh, one loft race link is at the top of the page.this will let you know more detail (It is interesting stuff) Enjoy Mikkey Cheers# Rab Smith

Without doubt they are good for our sport,yes there will always be some who talk of money made. However where else can one win this kind of money, in our sport today.after all the feeding and training, and time put in, there may be £50 in a club on a sat.There will of course be clubs with a lot more than that but there are also clubs with less than £50 Wish the one loft race lofts all the best in this coming season. It is they who are laying the foundation, for the way in which our sport will go, in the years to come. Cheers Rab Smith

This great for our sport takes us to whole new level. Can only be good for our future. Exciting times ahead Happy days Rab Smith

Billy wish you all the best mate,be prepared for the worse mate and you be fine Love the name "king billy"

Would be surprised if they are not,though must admit i know little about them, other than following closely the new one in Edinburgh.Indeed it does this site proud. One thing I was wondering, if it is possible with todays tech, if the return of the birds can be filmed live as it happens. Now that would be somethingeles Just a thought I sure someone will tell me. Rab Smith

Agree Rose, but for some the averages are what is in there minds

No big deal Rose, only clarifying things as you requested. If i have offended you in any way, shape or form, please except my profound apologies. Happy days Rose Happy days Cheers Rab Smith

Our Gladdo had requested some birds for a mate of his, from someone on this site. He made it plain he would pay for them and wanted to get about 10 think from the one source. I then suggested pigeon studs and asked DOVEscot to assist by sending out some web sites that will help the guy out. DOVEscot then done this then i said thanks As stated all you got to do, is resist, reading just one part, if you read from top, you will get the full picture Getting birds from anyone on this site money or not, needs to be monitored closely ,especially the gifted birds,there is no real way of telling just how many a new start gets or acquires. I am all for helping, but as with all things in life, there are always those who will abuse yeah. Indeed this should be addressed going forward Whats your thoughts. cheers Rab Smith

Rose look at the whole page mate, and you will see that they are only a list of places where one might purchase birds, as requested by Gladdo at the top. Happy days Cheers Rab Smith

Well said stuart it is in times of need that we must act in order to help our own cheers Rab Smith

Power to the DOVEscot,these will come in handy for me as well mate, looking for birdsshortly. once got loft up and running. However I will be paying, whatever i have to pay to get the birds, I will need to do the job. I am sure there will be something on your list of studs, that will suit his requirements as well as his pocket.Now thats what you call giving a helping hand to new starts Thanks for that mate Cheers Rab Smith

DOVEscot Your a wizard with these computer things mate, send this guy a link to a couple pigeon studs, who will be happy to help. Happy days Rab Smith

Good luck mate I am almost at the same stage.Off to see huts to day Went to see a loft last night, but it was not what i required 8 ft wide just to much for the space i have. Intend to buy a 8x6 and add a 4ft aviary.Depends what kind of framing need as near to 2x2 as i can get. Dont get me wrong would love to have built the loft from scratch, however not as fit as i once was "o" how i hate growing old. Still happy days ahead, my son has just returned from London so I will at least get a hand. Looking forward to having the birds after a 8 year break Happy days Rab Smith

Guess its important to say, we should understand just what hard work, both in effort and time, with this kind of thing. Been following things closely and would like to say, you are all a credit to our sport, well done. All the best to all in 08 Cheers Rab (I'll be back) Smith