Short memories you guys in the north :-/ :B Alencon 2008, late lib and G.Willox wins 1st Open in Peterhead and J.Donaldson 7th, 32nd Open and 6 birds in top 39 . The last time the Gold cup was won in the west was 30 years ago The later the liberation, the better for the further flying fanciers. With an early lib, your chances of winning the National diminishes unless their is a tail wind.