Stevie that's why I phoned the SHU office today to try and clarify the situation re sputniks pad under the floor of the sputnik is fine as doo is basically in the loft anyway but after the Petron trap being questioned we will be putting the pad under the bit of 3/4 ply at least 12in inside the trap better being safe than sorry with it but to be honest I never gave it a minutes thought it could be illegal as if the doo isnae there it cannae be timed anyway