A DECENT LOFT FOR A NEW START COULD BE A KILLER IF THEY HAVE TO BUY A NEW WAN BASKETS OR CRATES URNAE TOO BAD AN OLD STB WOULD DO ANY NEW START SO THEY ARE QUITE CHEAP NOW,FORGET SUPPLEMENTS IF YE ARE JUST STARTING IT'S BETTER TO FIND OUT ABOOT THE DOOS RATHER THAN SHOVELLING CRAP OER THEIR THROATS,FEEDING IS ONLY GONNAE GET DEARER BUT A NEW START SHOULD BE LOOKING TO HAVE APPROX 20-25 Y/B'S IMO SO SHOULDNAE BE TO EXPENSIVE................ BUT THE FINAL QUESTION IS THE BIG WAN AND A LOT OF THE TIME IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY FOR STOCK BUT THEN AGAIN IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL THEMSELVES TO DECIDE ON THAT ALF AS IT IS