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Stuart, I think you have made a valid point, and yes some do make money on the sport, i believe its ok to spend money on pigeons if the pigeons win and are from a lineage of winners and breeders of winners, there are money men in the sport who wear different cloaks of disguise. terminology is just the cloak they wear. If they make some money from their endeavours, then it is entirely up to them what they wish to do with their money , as its their time and effort which is being put into what they do best, whatever they call themselves . I have raced for the last 20 years apart from 2007 and believe what you say is correct in relation to the sport, and as for promoting the sport in this country, I think fanciers in this country should buy from fanciers in this country, do you not think ? would this be best for sport in this country? regards spencer PS would you think an idea towards this would be outlaw all foreign rung pigeons on the market in this country , thus promoting our own fanciers and their birds, I look forward to your thoughts on this.

yes Mick, a fair point is made, Mr Jack Barkel does not have to explain himself at all, I will not push or persue this and whatever Mr J Barkel achieves within the sport , I wish him every success and pleasure. He Posts on he's forum and does everything he can to try and explain his methods. no justification is needed on his part. spencer

ask ray about me, he is a nice bloke... and yes only one beasant family won 2 nationals, say hello to ray for me.

merlin, you could not get to me if you tried, loser

surrey !! you must know a few friends i know down there as i am a South London fella, steve claxton, the beasant family, d. sheppard, mo butt, ray duffield, john donovan, the list can go on... so now your in sussex, nice place to be. ;D

thats your opinion, and i dont need to sell my pigeons. keep your money and your excuse for staying midtable.

good for you, so where in the country you based?

when your pigeons expect the next round always put a second nest bowl in the box, its not rocket science, just forward planning

what response do you refer to stu ?? the guy has offered for sale 2 babies and i think they look ok , what everyone else thinks is not my concern !! ;D

yes i agree rose, you should have a crack at one.

with respect mr parry, I think the sport is full of individual storys of winning and losing but we can only say what we each discover for ourselves, I sir pay alot of money and am happy winning when i do. each to their own they say. regards spencer , chasing donkey as it can now run faster than me !!!

Hi rose, its good if top fanciers let you have some good birds, i can only comment on my own findings and relate my experiences to that. As for only winning clubs, you can only beat whats in front of you hun.. keep enjoying your birds. spencer , the man on the donkey who is happy to ride all day long !!!! on the beach

i think babies look well, credit to you mate.

we can agree to disagree rose, glad you have been fortunate with your pigeons, but i never seen a donkey win a national, only local beach races. but i respect your view girlie.. :K) spencer the dashing hero on a donkey ?

I am still waitng also for confirmation of Jack Barkels evaluations at a top belgium loft of present time, as he claims . If you have this data can we not see it instead of waving it under our noses, could we see this proof ?? I am waiting as is the rest of the forum members ? spencer

I think your pigeons Slugmonkey need no validation, congratulations on putting other lofts at the top of their repected competions. A proud achievement I would only agree with. You know your pigeons and proceed in supplying other top bloodlines to improve others results again well done!!! You obviously have the Formula 1 bloodlines !! so many have mini cooper but as long as they are happy, all the best SM. regards spencer

good luck with them !! ;D

mike your a star :P :P :D :D 8)

are you, consider i am better looking !!!!! you could well be. ;D ;D ;D ;D

yes and congratulations to my friend in Portugal, i already passed on my congratulations, its good to know jealousy rules the foolish head. no craftsman can work with bad tools !!!!! to remain a constant thought !

Roland , i find your statement creditable and sensible. but as you know there are many ways to evaluate a pigeon and joe basket is the way it is done, otherwise why race them mate. good call on your part Roland. cheers spencer

hello Jack, if your offering proof of whos birds you have mated in belgium, i think this proof should be made available. we could all say , 'we did this for a top fancier or did that' you can understand my scepticisum with your last statement, could this information be made available to stop the doubters ?? proof will always stop speculation !! regards spencer Jack you offer computerised data as proof, can we see this please. with names and dates , to stop speculation mongers.....!

thank you for all those kind words of congratulations, i am pleased when people win with my pigeons, which is every year !! thanks guys.

nice youngsters andrew, i do like your grizzles, but i also like the dark pied meuly. spencer