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THERE IS MORE CHANCE OF A PIGEON INHERITING THE WINNING GENES FROM WINNING PARENTS.. !! IS THAT NOT THE IDEA ?
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well what can i say, you best get up your local church roof and grab yourself a couple.. you seem as though you want to cause contrversy .. but there is none, if sir you relay on somebody to breed you good pigeons of 2 strays then it says alot for the quality in your own loft , does it not ?? well if you looked at my website and looked at my birds as a lot of people do, you will notice champions and quality throughout my loft. can i ask if you have the same ? any pigeons of multipul 1st prizes ... any champions , any that would put mine in the shade ?? this is not a contest or meant as an insult to yourself sir , but unless you have as good as me, i think you better be getting that ladder out and visit the vicar of Dibley and ask if you can have some van der steeples from he's church. ;D
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cheers TWRM and CLIVE. hope all is well spencer
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Roland, hi mate, in fact georges busschaert , real name Remi Busschaert did in fact get he's base birds from a number of sources , he then line bred and inbred these pigeons , which to be honest mate is a fact, I have busschaerts final auction list and family details , I also know somebody who knew him well, as most people had he's pigeons in the 80s. He was a master, but everyone says he crossed he's pigeons and had lots of different pigeons, well he actually linebred the pigeons to THE OLD SOOTEN , KLAREN, SOOTEN HEN and the onlynew line he brought in was PLUTO himself to add quality to he's already excellent line. later on he brought in ATOOM, AND 2 OTHERS WHICH I CANNOT RECOLLECT AT THE MOMENT BUT CAN LET YOU KNOW. So you see mate not many birds brought in originally but blended to a breeding plan which you have to see to understand. Alot of people breed to a plan and I stick to it also , which is successful, if you can understand how the top players breed their birds then why not do the same, I have applied breeding methods of BUSSCHEART, JANSSEN BROS, MEULEMANS AND OTHERS , Which to be honest all have a common pattern and method of pairing !!!! as did VAN REET and all the top guys. I have all the same or similar colour birds due to the fact its a family trait.. people with different colour birds do not have a family of birds. BUsschaert only ever had blues , cheqs , light dark or pied pigeons.. the red comes through pluto. so all red busschaerts decend from PLUTO, a family trait NO? hope your well ROLAND and things are good. spencer
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what has this pigeon done? what has the pigeons bred from him done ? WHY you getting rid ??? WHY £400 ??
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hi chris, lizzy rigby is good for testing . BHW advert is in there. Hope you didnt take my message wrong way mate its not a dig at people, but it is wrong, vets tell you this and they should know. I have not given my pigeons any treatment for worms , canker, coccidiosis, or anything else for nearly 16 years. had droppings tested and cameback negative !!! proof enough mate.. but thats me ;D
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wings, you keep what you think is right, but i select hard mate and dispose of what does not even look right. take a look at website www.timbarra.co.uk you will see what i mean. spence
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if you treat your birds for something which they have not got then it wont work will it.. blind treatment is useless, your not thinking about what your doing just shooting in the dark,, stop panicking and slow down. people who treat blind should be banned from keeping pigeons as its animal abuse. and the little white spots are not canker !!!! trust me its thrush but dont treat them with more sh** call me you got my number. spencer.. i will help.
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wings, i have seen your pic of the 4 cocks, to be honest busscharets never throw faided bar pigeons, there is janssen in it somewhere.. i believe it is not what it suppose to be but that my opinion. you should study bloodlines and pedigrees and types before buying which then makes sure you get what you pay for. again if the pigeon is wild, cull it. i would only have the front cheq cock, the others i would get shot of.. but thats me m8. cheers spence
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wings, Louella are justifed in not exchand=ging the bird for another. if it is a youngster then no reason not to i guess, but if an old bird then they probably think you have bred from it and want to change it to gain an advantage somewhere. but its just unfortunate. if you think the bird is not as good as your best bird, dont break it to your loft, cull it. rubbish wont become good just because its flying out to your loft!!! select your 8 best cocks for breeding and cull the rest. do the same in your race loft. you will then be raising the bar so to speak and only keeping the best. spence
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BOTH EYES ARE RECESSIVE WHITE, AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH EITHER BIRD OR ITS EYE. NEVER JUDGE A PIGEON ON ITS EYE..... PERFORMANCE ONLY.
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IF YOU NEED ANY IDEAS ALBEAR (ALAN) JUST ASK , BUT WIN YOU MUST AND AS FOR EYESIGN..... WELL WIN FIRST AND PROVE YOUR THEORY AS YOU SAID. ITS NOT WINNING ONLY THAT MAKES A CHAMPION, BUT WHEN YOU GET KNOCKED BACK AND FAIL AT ATTEMPTS TO WIN .. THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD AND KEEP GOING FORWARD.. THIS MAKES A CHAMPION . BECAUSE WHEN YOU CANT BE BEATEN ANYMORE AND TAKEN ALL SOMEONE CAN GIVE THEN YOU WILL WIN!!
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what do people want for £30?? soom people ask questions when they themselves know they dont even want the pigeon. well the 2 youngsters are sold.. as for your questions, i think you just try and pick holes in things you know nothing about. schouwman you ask what is the dam of the youngsters? well mate she is a good hen, who in their right mind would pair a rubbish hen to a cock like this.. i have CHAMPION BEER 23 X 1ST, CHAMPION TOPLOADER 11 X 1ST, CHAMPION GABRIEL 11 X 1ST BACK AT MY LOFT !! CHAMPION 02 6 X1ST, CHAMPION GOEDE VALE 10 X 1ST , CHAMPION BALLACK 52 PRIZES, ALL AT MY LOFT BESIDES OTHER TOP FEMALES AND MALES BREEDING WINNERS !!! WHEN YOU PEOPLE HAVE THIS QUALITY IN YOUR OWN LOFT THEN COME AND ASK IRELEVENT QUESTIONS AND OFFER STUPID MONEY (CHEAP) FOR GOOD WINNING BLOODLINES. ANY TOP FANCIER OR PLAYER WILL ADVICE YOU TO GET CHILDREN OF THE CHAMPION RACERS , AND WHEN YOUR OFFERED THEM AT A SNIP OF THEIR WORTH YOU QUESTION IT. I BET MOST OF YOU HAVE HEARD OR EVEN SAID THE APPLE DOES NOT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.. WELL IT DOESNT SO NEXT TIME YOUR OFFERED QUALITY BE QUICKER AND STOP FART ARSEING AROUND. WELL DONE TO THE 2 GENTLEMEN WHO HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH AND RESEARVED THE YOUNGSTERS. ;D
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yes frans van wildemeersch.. but a champion is a champion regardless as you know.
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One sold !!!!! any others for the other ... sex not guarenteed
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look guys , to be honest I have bought the pigeon in and he comes with 2 youngsters which i am not interested in and i want to blend him with my own champions. so thought i would offer 2 top youngsters for sale at a £30 each as christmas is coming and someone would maybe want early xmas prissie from the wife !!!!!???? look 2 youngsters early bred to bred from next year. the sire is 10. the only reason pigeons dont breed good pigeons is because their mates are of less quality 9/10. where else would you get a baby from a 23 x 1st winner at £30 ??? nowhere! so jump to it they will sell trust me. cheers guys.
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I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY TROUBLE WITH AMTRAK IN NEARLY 20 YEARS OF USING THEM OR INTERLINK AS I THINK IT WAS CALLED THEN, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY WITH THEIR SERVICE.. THERE IS ANOTHER GUY THAT DOES DO IT , WHO I THINK WILL BECOME VERY SUCCESSFUL.. ITS PIGEON EXPRESS, SAME DAY DELIVERY TO IF IT CAN BE DONE. IF INTERESTED PM ME I GIVE HE'S NUMBER OR VISIT MY WEBSITE AT WEEKENDIT WILL BE ON THERE . CHEERS
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hi mate, you can call anytime , i home all day so no problem. not hopper feed as such, put handful of feed in hopper till eaten then another , do this until you feel they had enough, use hopper as a plate to eat off so no dirt on food. leave no grain in loft .. mice will be a problem if you do !! cheers
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I would like to know if anyone would be interested in 2 x 2007 pigeons direct off my "CHAMPION BEER 55" WINNER OF 23X 1ST PRIZES, A COPY OF ALL THE SIRES CARDS WILL BE PROVIDED AS PROOF WITH YOUNGSTERS !! PRICE £30 EACH !! PLUYS CARRAIGE OR COLLECT. TEXT OR CALL 07989 746150 OR PM ME.
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its not always to do with the weather or if they go out in the winter or not, its to do with the muscle rebuild and breakdown , which in other words means muscle mass !! if you want to build muscle on your pigeons the exercise regiume must be correct, you must know what makes a muscle grow bigger and stronger, exercise is only 50% of it. the pigeon or any athlete must exercise to break muscle tissue down and break the muscle fibers. what builds muscle up after this which also builds the muscle bigger and stronger to cope with extra work load is.....REST. MUSCLE GROWS WHEN YOU OR ANY ATHLETE RESTS !!!! THIS IS A FACT. also amino acids and protein building blocks which supply the muscles with proteins , also carbohydrates which you need to supply energy to exercise in the first place... so what you need is. GOOD NUTRITION BALANCE EXERCISE PATERN RESTING PATERN WATER WHICH MAINTAINS GOOD SYSTEM FUNCTION GOOD PIGEONS GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF PIGEONS GOOD ENVIROMENT AND PATIENCE, OR SO MUCH PATIENCE AND REMEMBER THEY ARE ANIMALS NOT MACHINES.. SO LETTING THEM OUT IN THE WINTER IS A MUST BUT PERIODICALLY WITH GOOD REST PERIODS AS YOU WOULD ALL YEAR. HOPE IT HELPS.
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hello mr rapido, You seem to keep it simple which is best policy, i feed versa laga energy plus all year round nothing else, plain water with multivitamin 1 or 2 every 3 weeks, also just mineral powder when i think they need it, dry days only. a liquid calcium supplement in the water 1 a week as this is so very important. small oil seeds when racing is complete to finish through the moult. only feed your pigeons a tiny amount in the mornings just as a taster, then main feed is until they go for a drink then stop. shame really if you were local you could popped in and taken as many ideas from me as you wanted to.. or give me a call mate , i pm my number to you.
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salt in pigeons is ok, as long as there is a balance and they dont eat to much,, buy some rehydration salts, give for for 3 days and leave powder minerals in front of them, balance will almost then be restored.
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buy standard nestbox widowhood. then take a bath you stink, how you doin matey.. ;D
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hi mick, the webbing will split, easy to put right matey, plenty of oil seeds, budgie seed is good but dont use all year round and plenty of baths !!
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this is how you spell pedestal...!!!! and how do i know? because I have no trouble staying on mine.. unlike some ??? ;D ;D