tyson

in that area you have newcastle airport teeside airport r.a.f.boulmer which I beleive interferes with there homing ability what I have noticed if we get east in the wind we dont seem to have the same problem as with west in the wind it tends to push the birds more over into the newcastle area jmo

Hi gareth havent seen this weeks bhw but as you know I have spoken to you about this subject and I still believe that radar especially from airports does affect the pigeons and possibly all the masts for mobile phones just heard that 3G the largest provider for mobile broadband has in the last year doubled the amount of masts in the country so it makes you wonder why we are having all these losses for no apperent reason

forcast I am getting at present sat heavy rain midlands for most of the day good for sunday wind w.nw/n.w

I think the worst race we had was from hexam that was the day when most of the the scottish feds took a bit of a thump for what reason we will probably never know

maybe more training required next year

how many lost traing/raceing I think it has been a very trying year for y/birds

how are the returns

any word of birds timed in

what do you class the middle route as I see it you are either east/west of the pennines

blaz take out the other feds that go with pentland and they would,nt have much more than us olso a goog few members have not raced y/birds due to sickness and other reasons

is one for Mr&Mrs simpson

newark

I am from midlothian

listen lads I think we are getting of the original topic that is to find the probable causes to the losses is there such things as dead zones just like on mobile phones you go through a area and you lose the signal then you come out of that area and you get a signal could the pigeon be doing the same droping down into the valleys to avoid all the signals that could be interfering with there homing ability and when they come out of these valleys they get bombarded with these signals from what ever thus disorienting the pigeons there has to be an answer to what is happening I think it is time that the powers at be were doing a bit of research into this as we all pay fees to our govering bodies jmo

alf I take that you are happy with all the losses that we are getting down the eastside as I said it cant be any worse down the west what you are not taken in to consideration is the cubria pigeons take a different route ie they fly up through the lake distict our pigeons would not fly through that route

I agree that most of the scottish feds should be back down the west cant be any worse than what we are experiencing a lot less chance of clashing all birds heading north

bop are playing there part in the losses but my own opinion is there is more going on that we know about

my own views on this subject is it is a man made hazard that our birds are having to contend with ie rader airports and what ever is going on in skys I have flown pigeons for over 40yrs and never known sutch irratic racing as we are experiencing this year what are your views and possible solutions to what is happening ??

midlothian was at the official race point bubwith/selby

midlothian fed lib 6.30 selby/bubwith lt w wind

midlothian fed lib 6.30 lt w wind selby/bubwith

any birds timed yet

dont think there will be many at the young bird nat this year with all the losses that have been happening this year and feds not going to far with young birds my own opinion I dont think young birds need to be flown out to 200+mls jmo

garath why is lanarksire only going as far as thirsk ?

midlothian fed consett basketing put back 24hrs due to poor forcast for n.east england