I've been blessed this passed couple of years in the breeding side of things, having had 2 x 1st W/Sec winning Ck's in my lofts on loan to run with her and her offspring. Also sons and daughters from other 1st W/Sec birds that have been given to me. I have paired sons and daughters from all 3 together as well as some other stock either gifted to me or purchased at sales from the best winning SNFC lofts in this area. Admittedly my results haven't reflected this so far but that is down to me not the birds. i hope this season to get my act together and do the birds justice. I have had great feedback, especially this winter, from fanciers who have had birds off me and have scored well with them in their respective Feds so i know the quality is in my lofts. My brother has come in with me this season too so we're hoping to push each other to get the best from them. Time will tell.!!!