Would tend to agree with you Wul, to many men take positions on then can't take criticism when they do, so try to use non existent rules or interpretations of the rules to get back at their critics, i Despise this type of behaviour and those who would behave like it. I could rhyme off things that have happened to me in the last ten years, that makes what any Pigeon Critic could say about me fade to insignificance, problem is not all officials think as i do.