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Happy birthday Susan hope you had a good un

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can usualy get natural loft white in 25 kg if you used deep litter you wouldnt use so much

Just tell them you cant take the ring off but if you send £32 you can have it back

welcome to the site may you enjoy it as we all do

check ebay there maybe a few on there

i thought they looked like the previous birds Thomo offered you Bewted , easy mistake to make i did lol :B

bad news fella they make work there way back

Amtrak arrived at 5.45 to pick Damians latebreds up as stated fast reliable and a quick response no wonder they aint got a compeditor , just a shame of all the mishaps they have

well i guess as long as they sell more rings then its not to there benifit not to make them unremovable , i have invited Bricon to the site to view this threaD

new response from Bricon : It is not correct to state that a lot of pigeons return without transponders from races or even training tosses. I myself never lost any in the 8 years ETS in Belgium (with a minimum of 100 pigeons each year). Also a pigeons transponder that is no longer entering races can be used again on another pigeon. With fixed transponders these benefits will disappear. Another reason is the compatibility, yes there is a compatibility between the systems. But all systems work best with their own making. This is normal, an antenna is optimized to perform as optimal as possible, other transponder brands can have other variations. BRICON is always willing to participate with improving the use of ETS, that includes some customized features for the Unions. Don’t forget that the discussion of adding the transponder to the life ring has been going on for 10 years and the conclusion is still that a separate transponder is the best option for the Fancier. Best regards,

Unions could offer both choices of ring and clubs could order either rings with transponders or without each member would need to state ring type required .

just as easy to have a few small strips of paper with time and place slipped inside as ring, than remove a rubber it may have been a 2 day race ectra

heres a response from bricon regarding the life ring been incorperated with the life ring and cheating issues: Cheating can’t be done with the chips (transponder), adding the fanciers data as in Belgium or Holland is possible but again has no security benefit only that the owner of the chip is protected against steeling. Incorporating the chip in the life ring will also give no extra, the chip must be replaceable at any time for 2 reasons: 1 defect of the chip, 2 if you enter in all rings from the beginning a chip the cost for the Fanciers will be 3 to 4 times higher as he only now chips his pigeons that he wants to race, in the other case all pigeons in your loft will carry a chip that can never be passed on to another.

the point im making is if life rings were ordered a season in advance by individual members with transponders , then more rings made would reduce the overall cost, and make it less easier for any removal

maybe the way forward would be that when clubs ordered rings they could order either life rings with transponders and normal without , the only problem would be the compatability issues

your joking i dint hear that , maybe more reasons to have it with the life ring

Damian and i have been waiting near on a week for to pick his two latebreds up come am get yas finger out , thought they wanted the trade but cant respond to there dam emails

once again well done for giving your pigeons to a new starter , i hope they do well for there new owner

people removing rings are sad , and these people of the anti ets brigade should be ashamed of there actions as unbecoming of a true sportsman , i dont have ets just yet but when im happy that all the issues around it have been solved i will gladly install one i have the power supply ready . I try to get all strays that enter my loft nearer to home be it north or south no mater how many rings are on the birds ets and alike , i believe some fanciers have even had adress rings removed before as well . These people should respect other peoples property and treat them as i do as if there were my own .

the ring companys making the transponders would like to do that , but it would make all rings expensive , and if the transponder stopped working it would need to be replaced