Heavy Loses

[JohnQuinn]

Wrong Danny, I won Billericay, Ypres and first doo fae Reims in the club. No tae mention Approx £1,000 in pools and prizes.

 

Ps. Ave NEVER lost 80% in all my years in the sport, you're the only wan tae lose that amount fae 150mls that I have ever heard of. That sums ye up and the effort (Lack of) you put intae yer Doos shows every time ye basket them.

[Guest bigda]

Wrong Danny, I won Billericay, Ypres and first doo fae Reims in the club. No tae mention Approx £1,000 in pools and prizes.

 

Ps. Ave NEVER lost 80% in all my years in the sport, you're the only wan tae lose that amount fae 150mls that I have ever heard of. That sums ye up and the effort (Lack of) you put intae yer Doos shows every time ye basket them.

Losses are happening more offten as I have stated, the shooting and bop are the cause, and once again you put yer Head in the sand .3,000 pair of bop in the UK means, 1 pigeon taken ,and 2 hurt gives us. 12,000 bird strike ,every day of a race in the whole of the uk, and arround the 50 mile from home mark be it beatock moffat, or Livingston area, we are suffering big time that is 6,000 birds get eaten every sat

[Roland]

True obviously that the BEST birds are in your' loft.

 

Maybe time some should looked in the mirror. Others in the history books ...

In the 50's - 60's there was nearly 150.000 fanciers. Today 30.000 nearly, send far more!

Most had teams of 12 pairs tops. They completed the programme. Much of the time the nest circle played a part. Then Raced with certain races in mind. Most flew every race through to the end.

If not home on day, would be next day or so and SENT again.

Fed on a staple diet of beans and a little treat. The bodies were a robust, and a little heavier than allowed today, that's for sure. Good farm crops, like wheat and barley in the winter months.

They had time them to recuperate then and the cold weather killed nasties.

 

By far and away training was none existence for most. Hence entered first and the race programme if possible was used for the distances that the fancier chose.

Y.b's too, like some of us still do, straight into the races. All birds earned a perch, then later a nest box etc.

Come season's ends the problem was deciding which birds were to go.

[JohnQuinn]

Losses are happening more offten as I have stated, the shooting and bop are the cause, and once again you put yer Head in the sand .3,000 pair of bop in the UK means, 1 pigeon taken ,and 2 hurt gives us. 12,000 bird strike ,every day of a race in the whole of the uk, and arround the 50 mile from home mark be it beatock moffat, or Livingston area, we are suffering big time that is 6,000 birds get eaten every sat

 

Yer 3,000 pairs were there 10 years ago Danny, more like 7,000 pairs now. A still think they're the biggest wasters of our racing/Training (for those who do) but there are numerous other obstacles they have tae overcome tae. The Best Doos avoid Most of these by using intelegence that bog standard Doos don't have.

[JohnQuinn]

True obviously that the BEST birds are in your' loft.

 

Maybe time some should looked in the mirror. Others in the history books ...

In the 50's - 60's there was nearly 150.000 fanciers. Today 30.000 nearly, send far more!

Most had teams of 12 pairs tops. They completed the programme. Much of the time the nest circle played a part. Then Raced with certain races in mind. Most flew every race through to the end.

If not home on day, would be next day or so and SENT again.

Fed on a staple diet of beans and a little treat. The bodies were a robust, and a little heavier than allowed today, that's for sure. Good farm crops, like wheat and barley in the winter months.

They had time them to recuperate then and the cold weather killed nasties.

 

By far and away training was none existence for most. Hence entered first and the race programme if possible was used for the distances that the fancier chose.

Y.b's too, like some of us still do, straight into the races. All birds earned a perch, then later a nest box etc.

Come season's ends the problem was deciding which birds were to go.

 

Very true Roland but alas never tae be seen again. 😫😫😫

[moscow master]

True obviously that the BEST birds are in your' loft.

 

Maybe time some should looked in the mirror. Others in the history books ...

In the 50's - 60's there was nearly 150.000 fanciers. Today 30.000 nearly, send far more!

Most had teams of 12 pairs tops. They completed the programme. Much of the time the nest circle played a part. Then Raced with certain races in mind. Most flew every race through to the end.

If not home on day, would be next day or so and SENT again.

Fed on a staple diet of beans and a little treat. The bodies were a robust, and a little heavier than allowed today, that's for sure. Good farm crops, like wheat and barley in the winter months.

They had time them to recuperate then and the cold weather killed nasties.

 

By far and away training was none existence for most. Hence entered first and the race programme if possible was used for the distances that the fancier chose.

Y.b's too, like some of us still do, straight into the races. All birds earned a perch, then later a nest box etc.

Come season's ends the problem was deciding which birds were to go.

[moscow master]

Living in the past is not the way forward! Can you imagine how usain bolt messi Lewis Hamilton etc would of done to their competitors 50 60 years ago doos are the same unless your stuck in a time warp who knows you might still be usi a horse and cart 😂

[Roland]

Living in the past is not the way forward! Can you imagine how usain bolt messi Lewis Hamilton etc would of done to their competitors 50 60 years ago doos are the same unless your stuck in a time warp who knows you might still be usi a horse and cart 😂

 

Strange you should say that Moscow.

But many now are doing it. Are winning races and GETTING great returns. Plus the fact is that many you say today who aren't doing it are the VERY ones with big losses eh!

So the past is but tomorrows future.

Now you talk about Hamilton etc. The CAR'S road holding and engine performances are doing it. Not necessarily the drivers. Past drivers from each decade would produce drivers that could compete with Hamilton in HIS car today.

 

Are you saying that Hines and co, treated the same way as Bolt is, WOULDN'T compete?

AS for Messi there has been some great footballer's. Charlton and many more played against Pele and Eusabio etc. BUT ALL say that Duncan Edwards was a class above, and superior in all departments. Many great scots in all sports would compete today with fame.

Just look at the Rugby stars rated still as world's best.

Diets etc. etc. count and tell of course.

 

SO the fact is today that the pigeons AREN'T doing it today! Velocities prove that ... Yes one with pick a good velocity as a example when the paper bags we nigh level. But conveniently forget many others!

So the pigeon today can't simply compete with yesteryears.

 

Now when the Chinese runner - for many years

[Guest johnhunter]

Living in the past is not the way forward! Can you imagine how usain bolt messi Lewis Hamilton etc would of done to their competitors 50 60 years ago doos are the same unless your stuck in a time warp who knows you might still be usi a horse and cart 😂

 

Strange you should say that Moscow.

But many now are doing it. Are winning races and GETTING great returns. Plus the fact is that many you say today who aren't doing it are the VERY ones with big losses eh!

So the past is but tomorrows future.

Now you talk about Hamilton etc. The CAR'S road holding and engine performances are doing it. Not necessarily the drivers. Past drivers from each decade would produce drivers that could compete with Hamilton in HIS car today.

 

Are you saying that Hines and co, treated the same way as Bolt is, WOULDN'T compete?

AS for Messi there has been some great footballer's. Charlton and many more played against Pele and Eusabio etc. BUT ALL say that Duncan Edwards was a class above, and superior in all departments. Many great scots in all sports would compete today with fame.whatJust look at the Rugby stars rated still as world's best.

Diets etc. etc. count and tell of course.

 

SO the fact is today that the pigeons AREN'T doing it today! Velocities prove that ... Yes one with pick a good velocity as a example when the paper bags we nigh level. But conveniently forget many others!

So the pigeon today can't simply compete with yesteryears.

 

Now when the Chinese runner - for many years WHAT PLANET IS HE ON

 

ROLAND WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON LOL

[moscow master]

ROLAND WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON LOL

Zanussi

[Roland]

Well when one see the improvement in LOSSES from yesteryear. The ailments that they go down with and can't handle I. Loss of good constitutions. Let alone NOT improve on yesteryears velocities it just shows how wonderfully our birds have improved. Improved at great monetary costs true!

So glad I'm living in Happyland on the Planet earth lol

[tyson]

I some dont know what planet they are on

[Roland]

Lol, so are we saying 'Breed 1000's more birds to try and achieve what was common place years ago and state it's an improvement'?

Then some have the gall to ask what planet I'm on lol. Sorry can't get my head around that one. Think that notion come from Planet Looney!

 

Indeed it would be nice if some of these whizz kids that try and deride the facts the learned and practice minds just HOW that is so!

[tiger]

Lol, so are we saying 'Breed 1000's more birds to try and achieve what was common place years ago and state it's an improvement'?

Then some have the gall to ask what planet I'm on lol. Sorry can't get my head around that one. Think that notion come from Planet Looney!

 

Indeed it would be nice if some of these whizz kids that try and deride the facts the learned and practice minds just HOW that is so!p

 

For what it's I think your 💯 percent right

[tiger]

Should have read ur 100 percent right