Eagle Owls

[Ian McKay]

Found this on face book interesting :emoticon-0136-giggle:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/1518871808419083/videos/1530479437258320/?fref=nf

[philg50]

Good to see ,could be doing with more of this in this country .

[THE FIFER]

I used to have a disc with the sound of them to play when birds were out, don't know what I did with it

[Guest johnhunter]

Good to see ,could be doing with more of this in this country .

[the RSPB would never let it happen

[Roland]

When here the RSPB illegally cull them. Also spout horrid distortions of truth.

Dafra says any bird bred, or breeding in this country is classed as native. Hence the culling is illegal.

[Guest johnhunter]

When here the RSPB illegally cull them. Also spout horrid distortions of truth.

Dafra says any bird bred, or breeding in this country is classed as native. Hence the culling is illegal.

roland there was a debate about whither the eagle owl was a native of this country, some people say it was others did not agree the RSPB won

[philg50]

Maybe the Feds& UNions should be clubbing together and buying some instead of wasting money on lobbying mps ,do a breed and release programme of our own.

[Guest johnhunter]

Maybe the Feds& UNions should be clubbing together and buying some instead of wasting money on lobbying mps ,do a breed and release programme of our own.

that should go down well with the rspb

[Roland]

One only has to visit Dafra's website and contact them. Would prove I'm right as have seen their reply personally ... Via a very good fancier who is on here... though very rarely now due to ill health.

[greenbar]

Maybe the Feds& UNions should be clubbing together and buying some instead of wasting money on lobbying mps ,do a breed and release programme of our own.

p*****g against the wind. with the mp lark I reckon.

[ghostrider]

With so few resident eagle owls left alive on British shooting estates, will this be another raptor facing immanent extinction in Britain following in the footsteps of the English hen harrier? Still both sides continue to fight over whether the bird is native to our shores or not. Both sides being bird watchers and some experienced owl conservationists like Roy Dennis and Tony Warburton who support the native argument. The debate being centered on whether any eagle owl could fly across the North Sea like its smaller cousins the long and short eared owls which cross the north sea every year. The there is an even closer relative, the Snowy Owl which has recently even bred over here.

 

An extract from the notes of Charles St John from the book below ‘Wild Sports and Natural History of the Highlands‘ written around 1840, gives a description of an owl which St John felt was an eagle owl –

 

‘I am much inclined to think that the great eared owl Strix Bubo is also occasionally a visitor to the wildest parts of this district [sutherland].

 

A man described to me a large bird which he called an eagle. The bird was sitting on a fir tree and his attention was called by to it by the grey crows uttering their cries of alarm and war. He went up to the tree and close above his head sat a great bird with large yellow eyes as bright [so he expressed it] as two brass buttons. The man stopped to pick up stones or stick and the bird dashed off the tree into the recesses of the wood and was not seen again.

 

St John goes on to say that ‘ I have no doubt that instead of an eagle as he supposed it to be it was the Great Strix bubo. The colour of the eyes, the situation the bird was in on the branch of a tall fir tree and it remaining quiet until the man approached so close to it must have been the great owl’. In his foot note on the same page he adds – The eagle owl is a rare visitor to the British Isles. On the same page there was a second foot note about the rose coloured pastor [now starling] showing his knowledge of birds was very wide.

 

Eagle owls like golden and white tailed eagles and hen harriers have no place on red grouse moors as we are made to believe by the shooting lobby, even though the income from such birds through tourism can far out weigh the financial income from shooting red grouse. Not only does it out weigh it, tourism is for 12 months of the year, not like game shooting which only lasts for a few weeks in a year. Sadly the debate regarding the origin of eagle owls within the UK will die with its death!

 

Looks as though the Eagle Owl was in your Highland Forests!!

So what if it is an immigrant from Europe

Thought we took them all in..lol

After all the Perigrine was introduced to Britain...By the Romans along with the Normans...Fact!!

[Guest paulrstokes]

where in the UK are resident eagle owls ?

[ghostrider]

The Eurasian eagle-owl was not considered to be naturally resident in Britain; however, there is evidence it was native to the UK some time ago. According to a BBC TV programme (2005), a pair bred for several years in a valley in Ministry of Defence land in North Yorkshire.[1] There was some debate as to whether these birds were escapees or whether they have arrived naturally from the continent, which would only be a short journey from either France, the Low Countries or Scandinavia. At the time the program was made, they had reared 20 young to independence, and three young were in the nest. Nothing was known of what happened to those 20 young, except that one of them electrocuted itself on power lines in Shropshire.

 

 

Eurasian eagle-owl Bubo bubo and handler, at Bristol Zoo, South West England.

Another bird has been sighted several times in Heaton, Bolton, Greater Manchester. This bird was reported to have died in mid April 2007 due to secondary poisoning, perhaps from eating a contaminated dead rodent.[2] The BBC reported a pair nesting and aggressively protecting their brood from dog-walkers on a nearby footpath in Lancashire, England, in late May 2007.

 

However, a more recent BBC TV programme (2007) reported that the eagle-owl is becoming more common in the UK and is showing signs that it is becoming established, mirroring the recent rapid increase in the Buzzard population with which it shares some similarities, particularly prey and habitat.

 

The recent apparent increase in successful wild-breeding has attracted opposition from those who believe the owl to be a danger to native species and young livestock. Perhaps as a result, a few 'new' eagle-owls have been illegally killed, including the female in North Yorkshire that had successfully reared 23 young, who was shot dead in January 2006.[3] This act was condemned as "disgraceful" by the World Owl Trust.[4]

 

A new pair in the Forest of Bowland, Lancashire, have been attracting public attention due to having successfully reared three young to flight. There have also been reports of a further two pairs active in the local area as well as another pair breeding chicks in Northumberland in 2005.[4]

 

Eagle-owls have also been confirmed breeding in Scotland, with sightings of wild birds confirmed in Galloway, Invernesshire, and Sutherland. The World Owl Trust now believes that the eagle-owl should be added to the British Ornithologists Union's list of official British birds – indicating the significance of the increase in wild pairs in Britain.[5]

 

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[ghostrider]

There's an old saying....if your face don't Fit

Rspcb think that way

Introducing More Perigrine nest boxes here an there each year!!

Sparrowhawk left to Breed and Kill at will,and not kept in check

Letting lose more Slaughter on our Wildbirds,and our Sport of pigeon racing

Another thing...what's more English,than our own English Hen Harrier..another bird whose face does not Fit

Moan over

 

Have a Nice Day!

[ally mac]

Come on the Owls

[Roland]

Can be found any where. Bristol was the last one illegally culled I believe. Nest in trees or cliffs etc.

They protect their territory from other birds of prey. This they patrol at night. Have strong holds in Scandinavia etc. Often seen here too now.... The RSPB have a constant watch for them of course.

The fellow on the video spread untruths... if believable.

Numbers now of course far exceed past times. Two things he must know, but side steps is A. keepers etc. kept their numbers down. B. there was far, far, more birds in days gone by. Fields were full od Lap Wings and one would see countless in flock eventide in the full. Hedgerows were alive with birds - even when 'Egging' was allowed. We could collect Moorhen / coots and duck eggs and the lakes still abounded. Winter time gave us a plentiful of variety in numbers during the snow in our gardens. Sparrows were so plentiful they colonised the bushes and trees both in town and the countryside.

One could go out and glue the shrubs, hedges etc. over night and have an array of finches etc. for the next days show. When placed in a cage and a bucket of water threw over them ... My! They stood to attention and showed well all day lol.

[Guest johnhunter]

Can be found any where. Bristol was the last one illegally culled I believe. Nest in trees or cliffs etc.

They protect their territory from other birds of prey. This they patrol at night. Have strong holds in Scandinavia etc. Often seen here too now.... The RSPB have a constant watch for them of course.

The fellow on the video spread untruths... if believable.

Numbers now of course far exceed past times. Two things he must know, but side steps is A. keepers etc. kept their numbers down. B. there was far, far, more birds in days gone by. Fields were full od Lap Wings and one would see countless in flock eventide in the full. Hedgerows were alive with birds - even when 'Egging' was allowed. We could collect Moorhen / coots and duck eggs and the lakes still abounded. Winter time gave us a plentiful of variety in numbers during the snow in our gardens. Sparrows were so plentiful they colonised the bushes and trees both in town and the countryside.

One could go out and glue the shrubs, hedges etc. over night and have an array of finches etc. for the next days show. When placed in a cage and a bucket of water threw over them ... My! They stood to attention and showed well all day lol.

roland what planet are you on,glue shrubs and leave overnight then have birds for ashow next day then this is the best one through a bucket of water over them DREAM ON

[Roland]

John don't let ignorance of knowledge blind you to being silly. Was rife in the 50's. Great showmen like George Upex of Warmington, one of Britain's' finest both as a showman and judge. Now Keith Ferry who was well taught via George. Don Sharpe, natures' craftiest did it often. How do you think these birds were caught? Netting! DO you think that a Cock Bull Finch mated in captivity? Don't spout about what you know - obviously, know nothing about.

Jimmy White's brother is a well up keeper in Scotland. Learned and knows of George etc. ASK him and stop insulting.

 

As for the planet, feet are firmly planted on earth. Gosh and none so blind .... eh!

[Guest johnhunter]

John don't let ignorance of knowledge blind you to being silly. Was rife in the 50's. Great showmen like George Upex of Warmington, one of Britain's' finest both as a showman and judge. Now Keith Ferry who was well taught via George. Don Sharpe, natures' craftiest did it often. How do you think these birds were caught? Netting! DO you think that a Cock Bull Finch mated in captivity? Don't spout about what you know - obviously, know nothing about.

Jimmy White's brother is a well up keeper in Scotland. Learned and knows of George etc. ASK him and stop insulting.

 

As for the planet, feet are firmly planted on earth. Gosh and none so blind .... eh!

roland I know this was all done,it is the way that you are putting it over,and yes a bullfinch mates in captivity been there and done it ,is keith ferry not a Norwich canary breeder

[Roland]

roland I know this was all done,it is the way that you are putting it over,and yes a bullfinch mates in captivity been there and done it ,is keith ferry not a Norwich canary breeder

 

He is now, but keeps others. From Thrapston Northants. But has certainly had a wide variety in his time. He will be 66 this year. Yes the Cock Bull finch has apparently been bred in captivity so I'm led to believe. I have never said as much as I am not up dated in this regards,... Was often tried in massive Aviaries at one time.

BUT wasn't in the 1940's 1950's 1960's etc.

How it is done now I have no idea. Heard tell of artificial inseminations at one time.

[Guest johnhunter]

He is now, but keeps others. From Thrapston Northants. But has certainly had a wide variety in his time. He will be 66 this year. Yes the Cock Bull finch has apparently been bred in captivity so I'm led to believe. I have never said as much as I am not up dated in this regards,... Was often tried in massive Aviaries at one time.

BUT wasn't in the 1940's 1950's 1960's etc.

How it is done now I have no idea. Heard tell of artificial inseminations at one time.

I am away to bite a pillow lol

[billt]

He is now, but keeps others. From Thrapston Northants. But has certainly had a wide variety in his time. He will be 66 this year. Yes the Cock Bull finch has apparently been bred in captivity so I'm led to believe. I have never said as much as I am not up dated in this regards,... Was often tried in massive Aviaries at one time.

BUT wasn't in the 1940's 1950's 1960's etc.

How it is done now I have no idea. Heard tell of artificial inseminations at one time.

 

Roland,The Bullfich has been bred in captivity for many years, It could be you are thinking the cock will not hybridise with other species including canary hens unlike most other finch cocks, the hen has been crossed with Goldfinch and Greenfinch though.

[Roland]

Roland,The Bullfich has been bred in captivity for many years, It could be you are thinking the cock will not hybridise with other species including canary hens unlike most other finch cocks, the hen has been crossed with Goldfinch and Greenfinch though.

 

Could well be billt. Was of only a secondary interest so to speak so .... Mind the sticking with glue etc. is and was a 100% certainty and happening. Indeed many was the 'Wild' ones caught . Obviously due to their stronger colour etc.

[Guest johnhunter]

Can be found any where. Bristol was the last one illegally culled I believe. Nest in trees or cliffs etc.

They protect their territory from other birds of prey. This they patrol at night. Have strong holds in Scandinavia etc. Often seen here too now.... The RSPB have a constant watch for them of course.

The fellow on the video spread untruths... if believable.

Numbers now of course far exceed past times. Two things he must know, but side steps is A. keepers etc. kept their numbers down. B. there was far, far, more birds in days gone by. Fields were full od Lap Wings and one would see countless in flock eventide in the full. Hedgerows were alive with birds - even when 'Egging' was allowed. We could collect Moorhen / coots and duck eggs and the lakes still abounded. Winter time gave us a plentiful of variety in numbers during the snow in our gardens. Sparrows were so plentiful they colonised the bushes and trees both in town and the countryside.

One could go out and glue the shrubs, hedges etc. over night and have an array of finches etc. for the next days show. When placed in a cage and a bucket of water threw over them ... My! They stood to attention and showed well all day lol.

somebody should through a bucket oh water over you for making that statement

LOL

[Roland]

I suppose you only 'Dunked' them then.

Marvellous how if one DOESN'T know, or like something how they resort to scorn and try belittlement. Don't wash of course as YOU not knowing or able to understand, doesn't make it not true.... Just shows up how you hate your limitations lol