Harry0 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 now your talkingYes somes definition of the rule is only for tactical advantage Imo.
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Yes somes definition of the rule is only for tactical advantage Imo.Nonesense!! What if I take my bobs away completely like John Quinns trap? Where does in the loft area begin?
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Also my trap design was shown to Linda Brooks by another fancier who stated it was 100% ok
Delboy Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Just like saying the stall traps outsiode the loft but the bird needs the needs to enter it to clock it . . You have only exstended your landing board towards inside of loft Imo as it is not open and has a boxed area all round it . lol, cracker. What about an open door, is it ok that the pigeon walks in an open door and gets timed in the corridor? Georges trap is a smaller version of the exact same thing
Guest johnhunter Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 lol, cracker. What about an open door, is it ok that the pigeon walks in an open door and gets timed in the corridor? Georges trap is a smaller version of the exact same thingdoes the bird time itself delboylol
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 So a pigeon that jumps in a stall trap which hasn't passed the bobs technically is not in the loft yet then Harry?
Bobby4 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 And why was it allowed to take the rubber of its leg when it was in the stall trap an put it in your t3 clock outside the shed
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Fk the ETS I'm going back tae rubbers lol
William Reid Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Billy I might be missing the point here with me getting on a bit now, I'll auld guy ye ya cant don't think for a minute that you are doing anything dodgy but even though you have two separate systems, one for training and one for racing I think you would have a tough time explaining that and why you had pads fixed under the landing board of the Sputniks to some official, the way i see it, If you only wanted to use one system and you only wanted to time through the one customised race trap would it not only be a matter of moving the 2 pads inside the Sputniks , leaving these closed so nothing could enter, and then connect them to the race system with only the customised race trap being opened by your family to time arrivals while you were at work, this would mean you would only need one system instead of 2 and it would comply with the rules, or am I missing something and getting this wrong??Good evening young sir . At the end of this post I will look to see if I still have the photo of the new trap I added to one of my sliding doors and the old Sputnik that I gave back to the pigeon fancy free of charge. . One thing is for sure there's know way you started this thread without motive and after seeing a reply from Walter something is going on . But to be totally honest I couldn't give a .*expletive removed* if clocks or ets pads where stuck up somebody's back side . Billy I might be missing the point here with me getting on a bit now, I'll auld guy ye ya cant don't think for a minute that you are doing anything dodgy but even though you have two separate systems, one for training and one for racing I think you would have a tough time explaining that and why you had pads fixed under the landing board of the Sputniks to some official, the way i see it, If you only wanted to use one system and you only wanted to time through the one customised race trap would it not only be a matter of moving the 2 pads inside the Sputniks , leaving these closed so nothing could enter, and then connect them to the race system with only the customised race trap being opened by your family to time arrivals while you were at work, this would mean you would only need one system instead of 2 and it would comply with the rules, or am I missing something and getting this wrong??Good evening young sir . At the end of this post I will look to see if I still have the photo of the new trap I added to one of my sliding doors and the old Sputnik that I gave back to the pigeon fancy free of charge. . One thing is for sure there's know way you started this thread without motive and after seeing a reply from Walter something is going on . But to be totally honest I couldn't give a .*expletive removed* if clocks or ets pads where stuck up somebody's back side .
Delboy Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Good evening young sir . At the end of this post I will look to see if I still have the photo of the new trap I added to one of my sliding doors and the old Sputnik that I gave back to the pigeon fancy free of charge. . One thing is for sure there's know way you started this thread without motive and after seeing a reply from Walter something is going on . But to be totally honest I couldn't give a .*expletive removed* if clocks or ets pads where stuck up somebody's back side . Good evening young sir . At the end of this post I will look to see if I still have the photo of the new trap I added to one of my sliding doors and the old Sputnik that I gave back to the pigeon fancy free of charge. . One thing is for sure there's know way you started this thread without motive and after seeing a reply from Walter something is going on . But to be totally honest I couldn't give a .*expletive removed* if clocks or ets pads where stuck up somebody's back side . CRACKING TRAP BILLY
William Reid Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Tried to remove one of my double replys on my last post tapped enter twice due to the site running so slow but again got the .*expletive removed* off can't use the edit function
William Reid Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 CRACKING TRAP BILLY Thanks for your positive reply Del .Bought it last year from an old guy who is going blind in one eye and finds it hard to get around his small holding with his zimmer. But on a high note he said he would breed me six young birds if he could stay off the pan long enough :lol: :lol:
geordie1234 Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Thanks for your positive reply Del .Bought it last year from an old guy who is going blind in one eye and finds it hard to get around his small holding with his zimmer. But on a high note he said he would breed me six young birds if he could stay off the pan long enough :lol: :lol:
Delboy Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Thanks for your positive reply Del .Bought it last year from an old guy who is going blind in one eye and finds it hard to get around his small holding with his zimmer. But on a high note he said he would breed me six young birds if he could stay off the pan long enough :lol: :lol: Hahaha
William Reid Posted April 6, 2016 Report Posted April 6, 2016 Hahahaexpletive remove what have I done to deserve this . Have the youngest cvnt and the oldest cvnt on the site laughing at my post :lol: :lol: . It's not the doo game that's fckd it's the doo men that can't move forward that are fckd .JMHO.
Walter swanston Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 Billy I was warned off this thread for no taking it seriously enough,but I think you're right somebody's got an agenda
Big Davie Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Posted April 7, 2016 Davie when I first started in the pigeon game yir self and a few other guys in the Blantyre club used to leave my jaw dropped with the knowledge all you old guys had . To cut a long story short I have two ets systems at my loft . I have two Sputnik traps with pads underneath the landing board which only record on the one system as trainers. And one customised trap which the race birds and the other ets system has been raced marked . Why I hear you ask . Because I now work $hity shift and depend on family and friends to open the race trap . I cannot leave the trap open due to cats . Hence the two systems. Only wish that one day I can have one system used to its full potential. Again it's all down to trust Billy I might be missing the point here with me getting on a bit now, I'll auld guy ye ya cant don't think for a minute that you are doing anything dodgy but even though you have two separate systems, one for training and one for racing I think you would have a tough time explaining that and why you had pads fixed under the landing board of the Sputniks to some official, the way i see it, If you only wanted to use one system and you only wanted to time through the one customised race trap would it not only be a matter of moving the 2 pads inside the Sputniks , leaving these closed so nothing could enter, and then connect them to the race system with only the customised race trap being opened by your family to time arrivals while you were at work, this would mean you would only need one system instead of 2 and it would comply with the rules, or am I missing something and getting this wrong?? Good evening young sir . At the end of this post I will look to see if I still have the photo of the new trap I added to one of my sliding doors and the old Sputnik that I gave back to the pigeon fancy free of charge. . One thing is for sure there's know way you started this thread without motive and after seeing a reply from Walter something is going on . But to be totally honest I couldn't give a .*expletive removed* if clocks or ets pads where stuck up somebody's back side . Billy I was warned off this thread for no taking it seriously enough,but I think you're right somebody's got an agenda Billy, alright young fella, getting back to your 2 ETS timing systems, I admire your honesty for posting this, again I wouldn't suggest for a minute that you are doing anything dodgy with them, so long as you are comfortable with that then so am I but I still think you would have a tough time explaining this to an official of an organisation. Regards my motive for posting this up and a reply from Walter, read the posts again you are way of the Mark , I posted in reply to Walter Swanston but got a reply from Walter Boswell, you are fishing for something, but you are casting your line into a river with no fish, their is nothing to catch, I have no hidden agenda, I have already given my reasons on a couple of occasions why I started this topic and these remain the same, with 200 replies and over 7000 views I have got the wheels turning in men's heads. This will be my last post on this thread where I have enjoyed reading all of the different points of view, to all , enjoy your 2016 season where I wish you the best of luck, just don't allow yourself to be the man who falls foul of the rules and gets made an example of.
Big Davie Posted April 7, 2016 Author Report Posted April 7, 2016 Did you enjoy your mac Donald davyAh did Accy, was in with ma daughter and the Grand weans after being at the water palace with them, didn't see you, hope your no spying oan me
Waterboy Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 Drive through at football training with grandson
airdrie2 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 we are all going on about this and that typical doo men cant agree on anything, lets put the cat among the pigeons the race release point is it the exact spot of the coordinates is it ?
Delboy Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 we are all going on about this and that typical doo men cant agree on anything, lets put the cat among the pigeons the race release point is it the exact spot of the coordinates is it ? Hahaha cracker Charlie
Kyleakin Lofts Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 we are all going on about this and that typical doo men cant agree on anything, lets put the cat among the pigeons the race release point is it the exact spot of the coordinates is it ? Even after the recent SHU loft pinpointing with GPS exercise, there is still no accuracy within pigeon racing for the very point you make. Sometimes there are multiple transporters at the same site. They park and set up for their release. One may be on the co-ordinates, but the others do not move to where it was; they are set up and liberate from where they are.Our racing distances are therefore just guestimates and our velocities are based on these guestimates, certainly no accuracy here. Some may be racing to short measurements other to long ones.What if the guy racing long on that particular race has his pads inside his loft, he is losing out to the guy racing short with his T3 in his hand when his pigeon alights on his garden bench right beside him. He takes the rubber off it and clocks it saving another 10 yards because he is not even in his loft. Remember reading about an old time fancier whose pigeons done exactly this every week. Pigeon racing will never be accurate and it will never be fair. Just enjoy it and stop all the worry over this and that or you will end up being administrated out the game.
airdrie2 Posted April 7, 2016 Report Posted April 7, 2016 Even after the recent SHU loft pinpointing with GPS exercise, there is still no accuracy within pigeon racing for the very point you make. Sometimes there are multiple transporters at the same site. They park and set up for their release. One may be on the co-ordinates, but the others do not move to where it was; they are set up and liberate from where they are.Our racing distances are therefore just guestimates and our velocities are based on these guestimates, certainly no accuracy here. Some may be racing to short measurements other to long ones.What if the guy racing long on that particular race has his pads inside his loft, he is losing out to the guy racing short with his T3 in his hand when his pigeon alights on his garden bench right beside him. He takes the rubber off it and clocks it saving another 10 yards because he is not even in his loft. Remember reading about an old time fancier whose pigeons done exactly this every week. Pigeon racing will never be accurate and it will never be fair. Just enjoy it and stop all the worry over this and that or you will end up being administrated out the game. WELL SAID
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