What Strain Of Pigeon For Mountains

[sparko]

Forget strains get yersel some west sect ddoos the best in the land lol

 

On and serious note... whatever you decide just be a very tough selector...

 

The harder I select the better my results became.

Thanks Geordie i have got it in my mind to be very tough when selecting as ive seen some here putting anything in the stock loft and also keeping birds in there that havent produced anything even after being in there for 5+ years and that isnt going to be me and my birds unfortunately are from a 5 times East Section Champion so i will have to settle with them

[Tony C]

These vids will give you some idea how pigeons navigate through different types of terrain. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pathfinder+gps+pigeon+racing

[geordie1234]

Always fancied Iceland my bro in law lived there for a few year playing football he loved it

[walterboswell59]

i would always train on the line of flight if pos sparko with youngbirds you have to teach them the short route home ie the line of flight in the hope they will fight to hold that line every time they race

[kingziemckay]

just out of intrest sparko whats the coldest temperature you deal with in iceland?and the warmest?

threw out the season?

 

thanks kingzie

[ally mac]

i would always train on the line of flight if pos sparko with youngbirds you have to teach them the short route home ie the line of flight in the hope they will fight to hold that line every time they race

 

Ive tried both up here Walter and birds do better after being tossed north south and east. Out to about 10 -20 miles, then down line of flight.

[walterboswell59]

Thanks Geordie i have got it in my mind to be very tough when selecting as ive seen some here putting anything in the stock loft and also keeping birds in there that havent produced anything even after being in there for 5+ years and that isnt going to be me and my birds unfortunately are from a 5 times East Section Champion so i will have to settle with them

makes no diff where the birds come from sparko teach them the line of flight and if they can they will come that way education from the same spot 20 to 30 miles away as often as you can before racing starts till they know the route inside out then its up to them if there good enough they will get a turn good luck with them m8

[walterboswell59]

Ive tried both up here Walter and birds do better after being tossed north south and east. Out to about 15 -20 miles, then down line of flight.

agree m8 but line of flight first for me then round the clock if you like they must learn the straight road home or as near as you can get first i find once a yb is trained the wrong way first ie east or west it tends always to come that way jmo

[sparko]

just out of intrest sparko whats the coldest temperature you deal with in iceland?and the warmest?

threw out the season?

 

thanks kingzie

Hi mate

well about minus 10 ish in winter into the 20s in summer

[kingziemckay]

Hi mate

well about minus 10 ish in winter into the 20s in summer

 

 

i thought it would have been colder than that in iceland,

didnt think the temp got up to 20s in the summer,

so not to bad for your pigeons then,,

and keep me up to date with how you get on!

 

atb with your venture racing

[ally mac]

agree m8 but line of flight first for me then round the clock if you like they must learn the straight road home or as near as you can get first i find once a yb is trained the wrong way first ie east or west it tends always to come that way jmo

 

Ive found round the clock first, maybe shows them the local area, landmarks etc, then line of flight. Mine are straight into mountains after 10 miles or so. Hoping they will figure it out themselves as they have 40 odd miles of mountains to get through on their on after leaving the fed and club doos. Still experimenting

[sparko]

agree m8 but line of flight first for me then round the clock if you like they must learn the straight road home or as near as you can get first i find once a yb is trained the wrong way first ie east or west it tends always to come that way jmo

Thanks Walter and also everyone else ,what a great bunch of guys i really am grateful for your thoughts.ATB this season Nick

[sparko]

i thought it would have been colder than that in iceland,

didnt think the temp got up to 20s in the summer,

so not to bad for your pigeons then,,

and keep me up to date with how you get on!

 

atb with your venture racing

Yea they should have called Greenland Iceland and vice versa and i will let you know how i go .this is the view from the rear of the loft

[kingziemckay]

Yea they should have called Greenland Iceland and vice versa and i will let you know how i go .this is the view from the rear of the loft

 

 

that is some view mate!!!nothing for the pigeons to hit,wires etc,looks abit like scotland!!lol

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Sparko, for a start I am a novice and you have had advice from others far more versed than I am. Ally flies into extremely inhospitable terrain, so his viewpoint is important although it may not be accurate for yourself.

Normally line of flight teaches them the quickest route home, but your geography may be lie Ally's and therefore line of flight may not be the best, pigeons do not usually fly over mountains, but fly round them.

Glaciers, I presume are like mountains, so your pigeons will not fly over them.

Given your map, I would say you show 4 racepoints. The shortest, your pigeons are able to fly direct as they can with the next race, but after that the glacier becomes an obstacle. Looking at points 3 and 4 it would seem to me that point 1 is the most direct. I presume you have more than 4 races during a season, so decide what races you want to excel at and then train to the racepoint that suits, but given what you have shown, forget the 2nd race, train towards the 1st racepoint and they will navigate that way for the two longest races.

hope my thoughts give you something to think about without causing more confusion than you may already have.

[just ask me]

We cant teach our birds the way home jmo they either have it or they don't I much prefer to try train off a breaking point on the true line of flight rather then the direct line of flight I more use training for teaching good habits that I want them to have and fitness and of course with young ones getting them used to the basket

[Kyleakin Lofts]

We cant teach our birds the way home jmo they either have it or they don't I much prefer to try train off a breaking point on the true line of flight rather then the direct line of flight I more use training for teaching good habits that I want them to have and fitness and of course with young ones getting them used to the basket

 

That is the point I was trying to get at Jam. What would you say would be the true line of flight given the geography.

I don't think the shortest race is the most helpful in that respect, so would train for the other three on a line to the left, looking from the loft position out to the race-points. For this type of racing I would think plenty of short trainers out to around 20Km (10 miles), even twice a day or more if they needed it and you had the time.

[blaz]

bussharts for me time and time again over the years this strain have won all over .

[sparko]

we only have 5 races in young birds and 10 in old birds ,thanks for the advice all

[kingziemckay]

bussharts for me time and time again over the years this strain have won all over .

 

i would second that,they do the job all over diffrent areas with wins,

even with good results in some one loft races,all over the world,over some hard terrain

bussharts

they are very reliable

[tommy2]

Well i cant tell you too much im afraid as this is going to be my first year,the races are from around 80mile ish up to 265miles(400km)this is our young bird lines on google earth.

my loft is on some ground that was given to a few of us to put the lofts up but the only downside is we have no electricity so i have 12v power and led lights also i will be going solar powered too this year to trickle charge the battery.The birds from the other fanciers seem to cope very well and mine are always in the aviary even now when its been down to minus 9 just recently so i dont think that bothers them too much.One problem i did find this winter though was when its very windy and snowing it blows sideways hits the lofts and goes in the vents along the underside of the roof filling the lofts with snow and some other fanciers have been using spades to dig the snow out lol,but i was lucky as i have a false ceiling in mine and it settled on that but even so i had to get it out. Anyway i started tinkering with the vent putting a few 2 inch spacers along the vent and a piece of wood screwed to them the length of the loft and another the same way but vertical level with the top of the roof so the wind rushing over it draws air out the loft it may be confusing to read but it doesnt matter how hard to wind comes at it now the air inside still goes out that vent and nothing comes in. The other fanciers have had theres there way for a few years but i didnt like the fact my loft could get wet and the bonus was the air at ceiling is always going out which is what i believe is how we want it,i also have louvers lower down on the front bringing fresh air in.im not sure if the daylight will affect the birds as im new to this, i am also planning on training 3 times per week weather depending and see how i go from there and the rest i guess im going to have to learn as i go,as you can see in the pic that is one big glazier they are going to have to find there way around,do i train on line of flight for each race as they arnt on the same line or just stick to a happy medium ,do i pick a side of that glazier to train from to try and get the coming that way ? i just dont know the answer to this and maybe i could get some ideas from you kind people so i can get a plan in place.ALB Nick p.s B.O.P is the Gyr Falcon in Iceland

thanks for that Sparko,very intresting mate,thats the good thing about the internet,meeting people...best of luck

[sparko]

thanks for that Sparko,very intresting mate,thats the good thing about the internet,meeting people...best of luck

Thanks Tommy and atb to you too mate

[sparko]

i would second that,they do the job all over diffrent areas with wins,

even with good results in some one loft races,all over the world,over some hard terrain

bussharts

they are very reliable

Might have to get doing some research for some good stock of these then if it goes pear shaped this season.

[just ask me]

That is the point I was trying to get at Jam. What would you say would be the true line of flight given the geography.

I don't think the shortest race is the most helpful in that respect, so would train for the other three on a line to the left, looking from the loft position out to the race-points. For this type of racing I would think plenty of short trainers out to around 20Km (10 miles), even twice a day or more if they needed it and you had the time.

 

Not really too sure what you mean everyone will be different but in most cases we keep flying in the same general direction like down a certain coast line etc and we mostly have west or south west winds so the birds will hit the same costline if its 150 mile or 450 mile that would be your true line of flight the trick is to get them to break off the Line of flight at a breaking point races up too 100 mile with little winds and no distractions for the birds such as a coast line or mountains etc birds should travel in a relative straight line

 

 

I've seen it many a time even if birds are released 10 mile from the sea but yet they head towards it is it a safety thing I don't know