billy whizz Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ok guys so i think when the time comes for me i will be racing the roundabout system as this seems to suit me best,now my question is i will have a 2 section loft only keeping a small team 10 hens 10 cocks kept in each section im going to breed my own team of a couple of stock birds a fancier is going to give me.now i know they will be YBs the first year for racing etc my question is after the year goes by and i say a need some YBs for the following season were do i keep these if i only have a 2 section loft? Do you cull a few old birds? i dont want to end up with loads of pigeons and also i dont want to be culling birds all the time. Does anyone out there not do YB racing as much etc Thanks once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you've only got a 2 section loft, I think the best idea would be to race natural pigeons in one section and young birds in the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Ok guys so i think when the time comes for me i will be racing the roundabout system as this seems to suit me best,now my question is i will have a 2 section loft only keeping a small team 10 hens 10 cocks kept in each section im going to breed my own team of a couple of stock birds a fancier is going to give me.now i know they will be YBs the first year for racing etc my question is after the year goes by and i say a need some YBs for the following season were do i keep these if i only have a 2 section loft? Do you cull a few old birds? i dont want to end up with loads of pigeons and also i dont want to be culling birds all the time. Does anyone out there not do YB racing as much etc Thanks once againThree sections is minimum for any system racing old an young. Ye you could have am old bird amd and a yb sect but hard work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy whizz Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 why do u need 3 sections tho? Everyone i speak to say natural is sh**? And you end up with tons of pigeons even with 3 sections if you had YB in there they would be mixed wouldnt they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 If you race old bird's on roundabout then you have two separate identical sectionsYour babies need a separate section or even two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy whizz Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Lets just say a did natural system small loft dont want it overcrowded what do i do pull eggs? do you keep YB in there as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 You can race any age to one section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 How big is your loft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy whizz Posted January 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 I havent got a loft for racing yet just a small one for roller pigeons im looking for one or going to build one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 What size loft are you looking to buy/build? Sometimes circumstances dictate what system one races their pigeons on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy whizz Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Tony i reckon it will be around 10x6 maybe 12x6 at a push mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy whizz Posted January 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 i had a read of this its a good read My link now lets just say i have to make do with the space i have so i have to run my loft the same way as Ron Samford how do i keep the loft to a min of birds year round do i have to pull eggs etc?sorry for all these daft questions lol.... its says he kept 7 Ybs at a time and raced natural so how do you keep up on keeping the lof that way? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingziemckay Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 why do u need 3 sections tho? Everyone i speak to say natural is sh**? And you end up with tons of pigeons even with 3 sections if you had YB in there they would be mixed wouldnt they IF EVERYONE YOU HAVE SPOKE TO SAY NATURAL IS S**T!THEY MUST NOT NO MUCH ABOUT PIGEONSMOST OF THE TOP FLYERS ARE FLYINGTHIS WAY, ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 i had a read of this its a good read My link now lets just say i have to make do with the space i have so i have to run my loft the same way as Ron Samford how do i keep the loft to a min of birds year round do i have to pull eggs etc?sorry for all these daft questions lol.... its says he kept 7 Ybs at a time and raced natural so how do you keep up on keeping the lof that way? Cheers i will be honest , i didnt race 40 years ago . i can imagine things have changed greatly in that time . especially the amount of hawks around now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neila Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 why don't you race the old birds spare or roundabout and have your ybs from your stock latter to wean in may and then pair your old birds up in one section and have the ybs in the other and race natural for the longer races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy whizz Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 all a bit of a mind boggle this lol. does anyone on here not bother with YB races? and just race old birds? i just cant see how you end up keeping the team small if your always doing YB racing every season are you losing birds all the time or culling non stop? you must be ending up with tons of pigeons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 dont know what its like in your area billy but up here if your left with half the birds you breed at the end of the season you have done well m8 would think it will be the same where you are if your racing natural just give the eggs a good shake when there about 5 days old then let the birds sit them till they desert the nest and start to go to nest again this way you keep the incentive in the birds and you can always slip a youngster or chipping egg off your stock birds under them when you want more effort from them good luck with it m8 with a small team dont try to compete with the bigger team men choose your races and you will get your turn if you have done your job and your birds are good enough atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 all a bit of a mind boggle this lol. does anyone on here not bother with YB races? and just race old birds? i just cant see how you end up keeping the team small if your always doing YB racing every season are you losing birds all the time or culling non stop? you must be ending up with tons of pigeons?Q: Why breed young birds? A: For every 8 youngsters you put into the loft the odds are you'll get 1 good'un, if your very lucky 2. To build a team of old birds equates to the more you breed the more good'uns you'll find. The only way to find the good'uns is to put them on the road. You will incur losses putting them on the road, you'll breed thick'uns as well as good'uns. There's wires & hawks they'll have to contend with too. Out of the initial 8 you bred you could end up with 4, your now hoping the hawks/wires didn't account for the good'un/s being awol. Young birds are future of you loft, without them you'll go nowhere fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neila Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 all a bit of a mind boggle this lol. does anyone on here not bother with YB races? and just race old birds? i just cant see how you end up keeping the team small if your always doing YB racing every season are you losing birds all the time or culling non stop? you must be ending up with tons of pigeons? I only train my ybs ,as I work a fair bit at weekends that time of year but do train them well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy whizz Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Ok im getting there with it now thanks for all your info people means a lot cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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