Guest WINGS 04 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 so did they let them fly and pay there way now they are winning they whant them out
johno Posted January 17, 2007 Author Report Posted January 17, 2007 you have it one wings. the faces do not fit so the shu are hearing the appeal. if they hear it the implication is they will find for the objector. the appeal is at least 6 months late.
THE FIFER Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 you only have 14 days after anything to lodge an appeal, surely, and this is the problem today, officials iether dont know the rules or the are getting away with not going by them, the only way any organisation will run without hassle is going by the one and only BOSS, the rule book, thats the boss, and its put there by the members, if there is any dispute the answer is always there in the rule book, thats the only boss you can have,
Guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Posted January 17, 2007 Isn't there a case for publishing 'disputes' then? Together with relevant detail like date matter arose, appeal submission date, the outcome of the appeal and reasons for reaching the decision? From this thread it seems to me that a more open & accountable process would be helpful in winning members' trust in that process.
johno Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Posted January 18, 2007 no rose you can not appeal against shu decision. i light at the end of the tunnel is that more and more people are aware that the situation is doing no one no favours. the presidents post is up for reelection. so to are the senior posts within the shu. failure to change could well leave us with an never ending debate on what is happening. fifer you are 100 per cent correct in my eyes. apply the rules fairly and squarely accross the board. bruno a lot of sense in what you are saying. why is it that the powers that be refuse to listen. what is the problem with openess fairness and equity to all members. the shu is a members organisation. why do officials feel the need to over ride the membership. the way in which the current president is attempting to manouevre himself back into power says a lot for the way officials see things.
Guest WINGS 04 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Least you got chance of getting things changed if the posts are up for re election but will anyone apply for them or will you get stuck with the usual outcome people dont like whats going on and will moan about it but they are not willing to take it on and do something about it only fed delegets can go for the post tyhat is what johno is trying to show that or fed president is trying to do get him slf back in but he is no longer a lanarkshire deleget
johno Posted January 18, 2007 Author Report Posted January 18, 2007 he has joined another fed where he is delegate in a last ditch attempt to hold what he sees as power. he is well outside this feds boundarieas and will not fly pigeons. this is the example being set by the current shu president. poor extremely poor.
HOMER49 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Just shows how much power means to some people :-/ Hi Rose There is two sides to every coin Rose Cheers Homer 49
Guest WINGS 04 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Hi Rose There is two sides to every coin Rose Cheers Homer 49 HOMER CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS AS THIS SEEMS ONE SIDED
HOMER49 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 HOMER CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS AS THIS SEEMS ONE SIDED Hi Rab Read the SHU agm report in the BHW, The last paragraph and work it out yourself Cheers Homer 49
ALF Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 Hi Rab Read the SHU agm report in the BHW, The last paragraph and work it out yourself Cheers Homer 49 HOMER WHEN WAS THE AGM REPORT PUBLISHED???
Henrik Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 High time you all realised that Lanarkshire does not have a God given right to have the SHU Presidency. I think you will find that Mr Barlow has the backing off 80% off the fanciers in Scotland.
THE FIFER Posted January 18, 2007 Report Posted January 18, 2007 he can only have the power the members allow him to have, if u make sure u are doing ur job instructing ur delegates how and what to do, they are ur messengers, and i think there is a little more delegates than presidents, he is only one man, and even with his other officials they are only 3, still well out numberd, if clubs and feds do their jobs properly.
johno Posted January 19, 2007 Author Report Posted January 19, 2007 the members will decide. that is the way it should be. the members should also have all the facts at hand. throughout all these posts there has been no denial that the current shu president is involved in creating a position for himself. he has and will continue to use any means to hold on to the presidents job. the past actions of the same person in trying to put another ex president in place when he, the ex president was disqualified by the rules is a clear indicator that he, the current shu president is capable of undertaking actions which are not in keeping with the position he holds. poor show. very poor show.
johno Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Posted January 22, 2007 news from blackpool. the compound club of which the president of the shu is a member did not receive a resignation from Mr Barlow the current shu president. the lanarkshire fed secretary returned the presidents fees in a vain attempt to cover up the situation. the fees were returned to the fed secretary stating that Mr Barlow had not lodged his resignation with his club so therefore continues to be a member. the current shu president is knowingly and willingly breaking the shu rules. other people have been taken to task on this issue by the same Mr.Barlow. poor show. extremely poor example.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Hi Rose There is two sides to every coin Rose Cheers Homer 49 NO UNLESS ITS A TWO HEADED ONE
HOMER49 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 NO UNLESS ITS A TWO HEADED ONE Heads you win tails you lose Cheers Homer 49
frank-123 Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 High time you all realised that Lanarkshire does not have a God given right to have the SHU Presidency. I think you will find that Mr Barlow has the backing off 80% off the fanciers in Scotland. lanarkshire does not want a shu president from within its ranks they just want a shu president that is upto the job if 80 % of scotland want mr barlow then i will back him as the man has been chosen by the members to do the job my opinion he is not up to the job
johno Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Posted January 24, 2007 regardless of who wants Mr.B. he is in contravention of the shu rules and is therefore by necessity not eligible for election. in order to stand for election he must ne a delegate. he has not received the nomination from lanarkshire and by rules he has enforced on others he can not be a delegate for west dunbartonshire. this is the crux of this discusion. we have just taken a step forward by throwing out the recent ayrshire appeal. the delegates acted fairly and responsibly. they applied the rules even handedly and in a fair manner. let us do the same here. the current shu president is giving an extremelty poor showing and is setting an extrememly poor example. be open be fair. the same rules for everyone regardless of their shu position.
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