Guest Gareth Rankin Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Don't know owt ... Remember about 10 years back when a person of position won well, indeed sold his birds all over theworld. Turns out that e got caught and hadn't sent a bird / let alone raced one!! :-/ :(. Remember his wife writing an article asking for his forgiveness as he would miss RACING :o and in the light of all the good and hard work he'd done for the it was only right that he be reinstated! Good Golly makes one wonder just where her - and his - contempt ends! AS for this matter I know ot and wouldn't therefore comment. Remember it well Roland and remember how shocked i was when the news broke, it's funny how i wasn't shocked when the news broke about the PRO being caught by the gentlemen of the North West federation who took it on themselves to investigate him, when The PRO's fellow offcials stood back and done nothing on more than one occasion.
andy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Don't know owt ... Remember about 10 years back when a person of position won well, indeed sold his birds all over theworld. Turns out that e got caught and hadn't sent a bird / let alone raced one!! :-/ :(. Remember his wife writing an article asking for his forgiveness as he would miss RACING :o and in the light of all the good and hard work he'd done for the it was only right that he be reinstated! Good Golly makes one wonder just where her - and his - contempt ends! AS for this matter I know ot and wouldn't therefore comment. Roland Theres nae chance of his wife writing a letter
alex wight Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Is there an investigation being carried out to clarify if its true or not? What is the national commitee saying? what can the committee tell its members, of these allegations? Will this person be permitted to fly again if he wishes? just a few questions i would be asking the committee if i was a member , (the reason i,m not is because of my arson attack earlier this year, i will be next year). Being fairly new to the sport, i struggle to understand the operations of the snfc. There seems to be a lot spoken about this and that, which i think is important, and i feel the membership isn,t consulted or updated, at all. WHY NOT!
Guest IB Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 oh i heard it was hard evidence that's why he chucked it am i wrong i b Yes you are dead wrong. The Friday of our Open Race marking, 24th May, the man caught people watching his house and lofts. When he asked them what they were looking for, one replied 'you' and assaulted him. That's why he's chucked it, its supposed to be about pigeons, sport and sportsmanship, not this kind of thing.
Delboy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Yes you are dead wrong. The Friday of our Open Race marking, 24th May, the man caught people watching his house and lofts. When he asked them what they were looking for, one replied 'you' and assaulted him. That's why he's chucked it, its supposed to be about pigeons, sport and sportsmanship, not this kind of thing. Absolute crap. This was an excuse for the man in question to get out the sport quick.THATS A FACT!!!!Another fairytale and another believer.
Guest IB Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Ian, Your having a laugh if you think its a whispering campaign, he's been the biggest cheat in the sport for years and theirs proof. Respect your opinion, Andy, but first and foremost all the winning pigeons were verified by National Officials. It definitely was a whispering campaign. It was those 'whispers' 'folk are saying' in the letter to the National that sparked the whole sorry saga off almost a year to the day now. The thread mentions Joe Murphy. I collected a late bred bird Joe gifted to the forum from last year. It was the first time I had met the man, and he me. He thought I was somebody else, PRO/Secy of SNRPC. Anyway conversation turned to the allegations, and he shocked me by letting me know what the whispering campaign was saying about 'my' marking station: 'we were all in it, we all knew what was going on, and turned a blind eye'. What the crook-catchers didn't know was that Scott put his birds away from different marking stations last year, and hadn't used ours at all. So it wasn't just the one guy that was being smeared, it was everybody who gave their own time to mark other peoples pigeons, set their clock see the baskets on the transporter. Yes, thanks a bunch for that lads.
alex wight Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Why did he put them through other marking stations?
Guest IB Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Absolute crap. This was an excuse for the man in question to get out the sport quick.THATS A FACT!!!!Another fairytale and another believer. Suggest you check your facts, sorry, fiction. Common knowledge here what happened, including who did it. Stupid enough to brag about doing it too in the pub.
Guest IB Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Why did he put them through other marking stations? There was a proposal at AGM to close my marking station down. He lost his temper at that, and started to say he knew why it was being proposed, and was stopped by the President from saying any more. Only my opinion: the man became obsessed with proving his innocense (spelling). The following year he sent from Kilmarnock and Dundee. In this game, it seems you are guilty till proved innocent.
Delboy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Suggest you check your facts, sorry, fiction. Common knowledge here what happened, including who did it. Stupid enough to brag about doing it too in the pub. You ll feel very foolish in a week or two. You are talking about an old man giving this fellow a slap while sitting in his car.I mean the old fellow was sitting in his car when your pal shouted at him and put his face in the window.This happened ,nowhere near your friends house.This is a FACT. and I will say this once.Dont ever question a statement I make as anyone that knows me would never question my integrity.You seem to be condoning your mates actions????
Delboy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Do you think well respected pigeon fanciers would put their necks on the block and accuse anybody of cheating.No chance, unless there was undeniable proof
Taylorsloft Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;DRoland Theres nae chance of his wife writing a letter lol
Guest IB Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 and I will say this once.Dont ever question a statement I make as anyone that knows me would never question my integrity.You seem to be condoning your mates actions???? Lets get this bit out of the way first. And I will say it as often as it takes for it to sink in. You are not dealing with fact. You are dealing with hearsay You are simply posting what you have been told / what you have heard. You do not have a first hand account, unless you were party to the alleged assault. You are willing to believe this account not because it is factual but because it happens to sit nicely with your current beliefs / bias . I am also posting what I have been told, I also do not have a first hand account, I definitely did not witness the incident and I have difficulty in believing that fellow fed members could behave in that way. The whole affair is unbelievable. I did not question your integrity, you do not know me, yet you are clearly questioning mine. Scott Gibson is not my mate, he is my Fed President. I have seen the effort and work he has put into the sport these past few years and the passion with which he seeks to make everything in Scottish pigeondom presentable, accountable and above board. That earned him enemies, lots of them. The last thing a cheat needs is lots of enemies, unless he is fool, which Scott isn't. And I'm no fool either, so don't ever try to treat me like one again.
Guest IB Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 You ll feel very foolish in a week or two. You are talking about an old man giving this fellow a slap while sitting in his car.I mean the old fellow was sitting in his car when your pal shouted at him and put his face in the window.This happened ,nowhere near your friends house.This is a FACT. The 'old men' are known to Scott, he's had dealings with them before. But he doesn't know the son. Uncle is said to have 'fingered' him in the pub. Scott's next door neighbour is a policeman. He took photographs. Bit more than a slap there I think.
retired Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 So anyways back to the original question has there been a new P.R.O appointed?
frank-123 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 so really its all hearsay om both side until somebody comes forward with the truth evidence is what we need
ALF Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 so really its all hearsay om both side until somebody comes forward with the truth evidence is what we need Thats what i said at the start of all this we need hard evidence and if he was cheating then string him up as we dont want that in our sport
DOVEScot Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Why do they call Joe Murphy Mr 10% or should I say not in the same sentence :-/
Delboy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 WRONG, WRONG, WRONG- stop delving for information Ian, its obvious you dont know a bloody thing thats going on.The N.W members will sort this out, I m sure .
maverick Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Irealy hope this is sorted out before it gets swept under the carpet again and all involved are taken to task. Others on here have spoken of the c ash others should have won but look at it the other way the positions birds have lost,think now about being second nat to this man
Delboy Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 so really its all hearsay om both side until somebody comes forward with the truth evidence is what we need No, ITS NOT ALL HEARSAY.They have evidence of this man cheating and they must be applauded for putting their necks on the line in getting this evidence. I have seen the evidence and it is 100% solid.I will not say any more on the subject.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Irealy hope this is sorted out before it gets swept under the carpet again and all involved are taken to task. Others on here have spoken of the c ash others should have won but look at it the other way the positions birds have lost,think now about being second nat to this man All your points are spot on, but i do believe that it will not be fudged over this time by the members of the North West Federation .
gangster Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 my buddys dad would have a dual national winner with oude reekie making him a superstar??????????
Webmaster Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 The original topic and question I'm sure hve been answered. The topic has then digressed. Until the relevant bodies invesigate the allegations, for the safety of the members and Pigeonhasics no further posting on this matter will be permitted.
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