OLDYELLOW Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 cant understand if club was well supported its disbanded , and to let former members run it down as its been stated i wouldnt of given them the satisfaction of disbanding it , suppose they can reduce the fed boundary as wont be apposed now talk about letting them get it there own way , and shooting themselves in the foot if wanted to reform and stay in the fed
THE FIFER Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 well it takes 2 thirds of all members to disband, not 2 thirds of members at the meeting.
tom corrie Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 i dont think they want to be part of the midland fed anymorei think there intrest lies elswhere
Guest redwhiteblue Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 i dont think they want to be part of the midland fed anymorei think there intrest lies elswhere You can't blame the guys the fed is run by a bunch of cowboys it won't be long until everyone is looking for a new fed
New Doo Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 Why is anybody wasting their synpathy on Mr Hay???. This is the man who took the club out of Glasgow Fed (mid season) and let them race in the wilderness of not having a Fed for a few years. He then joined the Midland Fed only to repeat the past this year by flying the young birds with the Lanarkshre Fed(who did not take them in the last time)Judging by Alf's comment it looks as though he is going to realise his ambition to join the Big Lanarkshire Fed this time! Hope the members of the fed realise just what they are letting themselves in for. You will have to be good to beat Delboy- he's better than most mere mortals or so he thinks.
frank-123 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 surely mr hay on his own could not decide where a club should join or leave it must have been an agreement on the majority side
Whats it called Cumbernauld Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 Whatever the reasoning behind this, it is indeed a sad day that members feel their only option is to disband the club. I have argued as many will know that much of what we are seeing is the product of weak leadership from the top down. Feds should be define, as we difine where we stay, my post code is in North lanarkshire thus i should fall within, and be a member of North Lanarkshire Fed.Many Feds are the product of breakaways and new feds with no real geographical identity,indeed an example of this would be the Midland fed. Midland of where???? This Midland Fed is the Airdrie Fed,and the way things are going this is exactly what it will be called within the next 10 years.If there enough member left to do so. Things going from bad to worse god luck to you guys in Kirky Rab Smith
rednyellow Posted September 29, 2008 Report Posted September 29, 2008 Why is anybody wasting their synpathy on Mr Hay???. This is the man who took the club out of Glasgow Fed (mid season) and let them race in the wilderness of not having a Fed for a few years. He then joined the Midland Fed only to repeat the past this year by flying the young birds with the Lanarkshre Fed(who did not take them in the last time)Judging by Alf's comment it looks as though he is going to realise his ambition to join the Big Lanarkshire Fed this time! Hope the members of the fed realise just what they are letting themselves in for. You will have to be good to beat Delboy- he's better than most mere mortals or so he thinks. throwing stones with your first post,not very gentlemanly,also a few porkies,"glasgow fed mid season" untrue. ;) :)
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Why is anybody wasting their synpathy on Mr Hay???. This is the man who took the club out of Glasgow Fed (mid season) and let them race in the wilderness of not having a Fed for a few years. He then joined the Midland Fed only to repeat the past this year by flying the young birds with the Lanarkshre Fed(who did not take them in the last time)Judging by Alf's comment it looks as though he is going to realise his ambition to join the Big Lanarkshire Fed this time! Hope the members of the fed realise just what they are letting themselves in for. You will have to be good to beat Delboy- he's better than most mere mortals or so he thinks. You have made a few points within your opening statement New Doo:- So as Bart has already said how could Derek possibly take the club himself out of the Glasgow fed when at that time they resigned the club had around 30-40 lofts making it one of the biggest clubs in Scotland :-/. I believe going by previous posts made by Derek that they flew young birds with Lanarkshire fed because of being slaughtered year after year with racing with the Midland fed down the West route of Scotland to which I believe happened this year again. As for joining Lanarkshire federation well as much as I would welcome good competition from the ex-members of the Kirky club it could only be good for any federation that has a declining membership added to the fact that they are approx within a mile of the boundaries as they exist at present. And as for your last quote it comes through to me like Jealousy and nothing but Jealousy. Out of curiosity would you like to disclose your real identity or would you prefer to remain anonymous after such a poor cowardly opening statement.
Merlin Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Whatever the reasoning behind this, it is indeed a sad day that members feel their only option is to disband the club. I have argued as many will know that much of what we are seeing is the product of weak leadership from the top down. Feds should be define, as we difine where we stay, my post code is in North lanarkshire thus i should fall within, and be a member of North Lanarkshire Fed.Many Feds are the product of breakaways and new feds with no real geographical identity,indeed an example of this would be the Midland fed. Midland of where???? This Midland Fed is the Airdrie Fed,and the way things are going this is exactly what it will be called within the next 10 years.If there enough member left to do so. Things going from bad to worse god luck to you guys in Kirky Rab Smith The above should be carved in stone and implemented,with clubs also coming under the same rule. If you look at the bigger picture.Breakaway clubs and feds etc,does the fancy no good whatsoever in the long run.
BLACK W F Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 it is always sad when a club calls it a day for what ever reason we are in a sport that is in decline and here we have a club forced to disband what ever the reasons i would think the people who have forced this issue will be proud of them selves as this sport of ours is suposed to be for relaxation to get away for the day today hassles at work ect i can only hope that may be common sense is seen and this sad matter can be resolved to all s satisfaction cheers Alan
tom corrie Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 could derek please please explain to us how the midland fed has mistreated the the kirkintilloch club
Guest IB Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Judging by the posts earlier on in the race season, I thought the club was going to join Lanarkshire Fed. I'm sorry to see it fold, and given that everyone says its a good club to be in, I don't see what is to be gained from disbanding.
Guest bigda Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 with the disbandment of the kirky club, how Manny members are joining Glasgow again, or will it be invitation only to those and such as those, or maybe join lanarkshire for training purposes
atlantic Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 would just like to say a couple of things,the individual ex-members of kirky club would be very welcome to apply to a club in glasgow i am sure. and just a point to gareth rankin,1 mile or 10 mile outside the boundry is just that. and with all due respect to all ex members of kirky club,whoever lets them in should not give them any positions in said club or fed as to disband a club on hearsay is a joke.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 Judging by the posts earlier on in the race season, I thought the club was going to join Lanarkshire Fed. I'm sorry to see it fold, and given that everyone says its a good club to be in, I don't see what is to be gained from disbanding. Lanarkshire Fed refused them entry a couple of times that I know of
New Doo Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 My apologies to rednyellow, you're correct they did not leave mid season they left after the third old bird race Fact not fiction. As for the accusation that I am a coward by not putting my name on, does that mean that rednyellow and all the other nameless people are cowards too? Question Why apply for membership of Glasgow Fed in June and then disband the club in September? Would they have stayed together if they had become members of Glasgow ? or would that only have delayed the inevitable loss of a good club which went from approximately 35 lofts to 11 in the space of six years under the guidance of Mr Hay.
Delboy Posted September 30, 2008 Author Report Posted September 30, 2008 My apologies to rednyellow, you're correct they did not leave mid season they left after the third old bird race Fact not fiction. As for the accusation that I am a coward by not putting my name on, does that mean that rednyellow and all the other nameless people are cowards too? Question Why apply for membership of Glasgow Fed in June and then disband the club in September? Would they have stayed together if they had become members of Glasgow ? or would that only have delayed the inevitable loss of a good club which went from approximately 35 lofts to 11 in the space of six years under the guidance of Mr Hay. Ive sat back and listened to this crap for too long now.You are a complete idiot that obviously couldnt fly a kite on a windy day. Its arseholes like you that have wasted the Kirkintilloch club, jealous of their results, jealous of their reputation, jealous of their winners. Your a LOSER and everybody that supports you are LOSERS too. Whats your name? I bet you are an ex member that couldnt compete with the big boys. Thats the bottom line here, the cranks that have a go at the Kirky club, or me, left because they couldnt compete. Everybody looking at this thread knows what I am talking about. The Kirky club disband, thats it, nothing else, but still the diddies have a go for no reason. JEALOUSY, THE RUIN OF THE PIGEON SPORT. Derek Hay
rednyellow Posted September 30, 2008 Report Posted September 30, 2008 My apologies to rednyellow, you're correct they did not leave mid season they left after the third old bird race Fact not fiction. As for the accusation that I am a coward by not putting my name on, does that mean that rednyellow and all the other nameless people are cowards too? Question Why apply for membership of Glasgow Fed in June and then disband the club in September? Would they have stayed together if they had become members of Glasgow ? or would that only have delayed the inevitable loss of a good club which went from approximately 35 lofts to 11 in the space of six years under the guidance of Mr Hay. newdoo,have no idea who is feeding you incorrect information "they left after the third old bird race fact not fiction" complete tosh!!! i know my stats,you most clearly do not,the members of KIRKINTILLOCH RPC put a lot of effort and work into glasgow fed including mr hay, afraid in the pigeon game you are "damned if you do and damned if you dont" joining a pigeon forum just to have a go at a certain individual is very much poor form. ;) ps if you want to pm me i can furnish you with all the CORRECT data!!!
tom corrie Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 cumbernauld much as i enjoy reading your posts but are you saying that the midland federation which was founded in 1893 with all its history is a breakaway fed
New Doo Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 I seem to have hit a bit of a raw nerve somewhere. Dear me! I cannot recollect saying anything bad about the Kirky Club or its ex members( of which I am not one). This is an open forum and I have always taken it that facts and questions were the name of the game or perhaps not! Nevermind I will go on with life as usual as a poor jealous?!!! who said I was jealous anyway? person enjoying my pigeons and keeping well out of the way of people who seem strangers to the true facts of life.
Guest redwhiteblue Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 I have been wartching this thread with great interest and it seems to be going way off course, it started with a disbandonment of a club which is sad enough I see Mr New Doo has changed it round to one man Mr Hay. I have known the Hay family for several years now they are a wonderful family who is dedicated to the sport, the way new doo has pinpointed Mr Hay as a bully is just a piece of nonsense as the club members are more than capable of speaking up and voting for themselves
Guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 I have been wartching this thread with great interest and it seems to be going way off course, it started with a disbandonment of a club which is sad enough I see Mr New Doo has changed it round to one man Mr Hay. I have known the Hay family for several years now they are a wonderful family who is dedicated to the sport, the way new doo has pinpointed Mr Hay as a bully is just a piece of nonsense as the club members are more than capable of speaking up and voting for themselves spot on..
kirky cowboy Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 this guy calling himself new doo for somebody thats not an ex-member of the kirky club you seem to know a lot about what goes on there and what mr hay does .I would also like to add that that derek hay has or had only the best intentions for the kirky club .
Roland Posted October 1, 2008 Report Posted October 1, 2008 So, so, very sad, yes sad indeed... and yet even sadder is that it is happening elsewhere, and many clubs will be going the same way.
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