Novice Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Each of the 22 Doos lost from here on Saturday all had phone number rings on them..............not one reported. In fact there have been very few reported all year and of those that have 2 were with Non-fanciers?? Very few strays are reported now. That is a fact. I believe that fewer than previously are returned through the stray centre. I believe that fanciers are just as co-operative as they have always been so does this mean that very few enter strange lofts? I think that a great deal of our losses are due to the fact we live on an Island and many of the youngsters are drowned. I feel many (for whatever reason) continue flying with no sense of direction till they can go no further. Unfortunately for some this occurs when they are over water.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 when you all talk about this clashing why are the scottish lofts not full of english birds surely in clashes birds go both ways???? but it seems the scottish birds apear to go the wrong way.all the time. lanarkshire lost approx 4000 birds at weekend so why is there not 4000 english birds lost up here, Think its got more to do than clashing. Jmo a very valid point indeed
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Very few strays are reported now. That is a fact. I believe that fewer than previously are returned through the stray centre. I believe that fanciers are just as co-operative as they have always been so does this mean that very few enter strange lofts? I think that a great deal of our losses are due to the fact we live on an Island and many of the youngsters are drowned. I feel many (for whatever reason) continue flying with no sense of direction till they can go no further. Unfortunately for some this occurs when they are over water. agrre because they think a bop is still on there ars. Old birds a bit flyer and go to ground for day or two and come back when coast clear.
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 a very valid point indeedwhen we raced down the west side years ago and the welsh north road clashed with our birds we would get a good amount of whu birds hanging about the area , there does not appear to be any english birds around
Guest bigda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 i have seen the midlands train there birds at crowford with 1,000 birds on board seen 2 peregrines turn the lot of them when they had cleared the site for 15 min then the lots of the birds charge right pas the point of liberation and as i say just 2 of them hell knows what its like when there are more when you consider the young they can produce and around the lake district and above there must be afew thousand, and when he is on your birds tail your bird will fly straight through them forest trees, that are all the way home from there to there lofts, braking legs and wings thats the sort of fear they posses and dont think the dont :-/
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Have had many conversations with English fanciers and it is now becoming quite clear that no clashing or very little clashing has taken place to give us the race that has materialised. Over the years there has been plenty of races were our pigeons have clashed and the typical signs are the first 20% of the convoy bang on the time they should have been followed by a lull for 1or 2 hours then another 40 to 50% home by nightfall with losses finishing at 30 to 40% of the convoy.
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Have had many conversations with English fanciers and it is now becoming quite clear that no clashing or very little clashing has taken place to give us the race that has materialised. Over the years there has been plenty of races were our pigeons have clashed and the typical signs are the first 20% of the convoy bang on the time they should have been followed by a lull for 1or 2 hours then another 40 to 50% home by nightfall with losses finishing at 30 to 40% of the convoy. correct gareth the birds sorted themselves out and turned up later and you always got some of the birds that you clashed with hanging about
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Something i'd like to know to put an end to something is who actually gave permission for the birds to be liberated on saturday morning? It might seem like a strange question but??
Guest bigda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 some one who had there wits, about them i hope ;D
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Something i'd like to know to put an end to something is who actually gave permission for the birds to be liberated on saturday morning? It might seem like a strange question but?? Spit it out, or are you stirring up sh-te as usual for the Lanarkshire officials.
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Spit it out, or are you stirring up sh-te as usual for the Lanarkshire officials. Shut up ya clown... i'm trying to find out what happened on saturday morning as i heard something that may be relivent to what happened to our doos and i'd like to know the truth!!!
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Shut up ya clown... i'm trying to find out what happened on saturday morning as i heard something that may be relivent to what happened to our doos and i'd like to know the truth!!! Spit it out and stop your political point scoring against the officials of Lanarkshire
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Spit it out and stop your political point scoring against the officials of Lanarkshire Nobody is trying to score any points i just want to know who gave permission to let the doos go on saturday as i seen Budgie on the site and i dont need to tell you anything!!!
ALF Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 maybe budgie can tell you alf Thats why i put the post up as i seen him looking at the thread
Guest stevie-b Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 some good points raised by andy which i agree basketing conveeners no doing there job and checking birds too many sick pigeons on lorrys to many so called fanciers sending doos back to quick after ybs to many fanciers no traing t5here birds enough and jumping them in these r the main cuolprits certainally no the controllers or the b.o.p
Guest bigda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 maybe he cant face it at the moment still to sick
Delboy Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 Have had many conversations with English fanciers and it is now becoming quite clear that no clashing or very little clashing has taken place to give us the race that has materialised. Over the years there has been plenty of races were our pigeons have clashed and the typical signs are the first 20% of the convoy bang on the time they should have been followed by a lull for 1or 2 hours then another 40 to 50% home by nightfall with losses finishing at 30 to 40% of the convoy. Initially, with the amount of birds missing, I assumed it was down to clashing.Now, I think it is a combination of things. The Wetherby, Wakefield, Selby etc area is reknowned for peregrine attacks ( remember the OB Wakefield, lots of birds injured,I myself had 5 return hawked ) With this in mind, I think maybe after getting struck by BOP the convoy has split into groups, heading in all directions. Clashing could have took part thereafter and this would account for alot of things.
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 some good points raised by andy which i agree basketing conveeners no doing there job and checking birds too many sick pigeons on lorrys to many so called fanciers sending doos back to quick after ybs to many fanciers no traing t5here birds enough and jumping them in these r the main cuolprits certainally no the controllers or the b.o.pif that was the case you would have lost loads at the previous races that dosent happen as suddenly as the hammering last weehend
walterbmasson Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 how many times have you seen OLD BIRDS LET UP IN NEAR PERFECT CONDITIONS AND GETTING A SMASH i know its leaves a bad taste in your mouth but remember every body is in the same sitution its a big set back for the lanarkshire fed lads but you can bet it wont be the last fed that will get a hammering ashoreand dont know whats happened i remember not so long ago the irish birds went missing and a couple o days passed they were being washed ashore most of the convoy was drowned you have just to hope there is sme works back
Guest bigda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 of course it is, thats why we dont get english birds in and the borders have bad races all the time and the solway get f-ecked every other week it 2 perigrine can turn them what can 500 do that want to eat them
nagid Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 if it was b.o.p that caused this why did it not happen at otterburn.that place is covered wae percys
Guest bigda Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 if it was b.o.p that caused this why did it not happen at otterburn.that place is covered wae percys you ask this and it could have been the very place it happend why not
Guest JPH Posted August 25, 2009 Report Posted August 25, 2009 if it was b.o.p that caused this why did it not happen at otterburn.that place is covered wae percysyou got lucky but it did happen to other feds on same day
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