andy Burgess Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 we all breed a few these days , and there not all champions ? so if from a nest pair 1 is a winner on the road , what percentage would you say its nest-mate would breed good racers ??
novo10 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 we all breed a few these days , and there not all champions ? so if from a nest pair 1 is a winner on the road , what percentage would you say its nest-mate would breed good racers ?? 10%
JohnQuinn Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 A wouldn't think you would get better breeding results from the least successful one on the road Andy, i know i would rather breed from the one doing the winning in the basket. Jmo
Tony C Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 I would say the better the specimen the higher the percentage.
Guest chad3646 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 how many times have you lost the so called monkeys, then you realise that was the one that was breeding the young which turned out to be winners
JohnQuinn Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 how many times have you lost the so called monkeys, then you realise that was the one that was breeding the young which turned out to be winners How many times have ye held onto a "Cracker" only tae discover 5yr doon the line its left nothin
Guest chad3646 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Posted June 9, 2014 How many times have ye held onto a "Cracker" only tae discover 5yr doon the line its left nothin
andy Burgess Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Posted June 9, 2014 some interesting and differing answers so far , keep them coming (please)
Michael J Burden Posted June 10, 2014 Report Posted June 10, 2014 A great fancier of yesteryear used to pair his best birds and keep the ybs for stock only. This was because he continued racing the best birds but had a pigeon or two off them in the stock shed in case he lost them. He bred many good birds from these untried pigeons but I am sure he also bred also rans. His name was the late great Eric Fox of Bakewell. Mjb
walterboswell59 Posted June 10, 2014 Report Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) i dont think there is any hard and fast rules on breeding winners its ether they have it in there gene pool or they have not i also believe most pigeons can produce a winner as there is so much luck involved by birds just being in the right place at the right time getting a good trap right wind to suite your location blow home where pigeons not as fit as the rest can still win nest condition and many other factors so i tend not to count them as good breeders till they have bred 3 winners then i know its no fluke but a winner is a winner as they say imo if the only winner a pair breed is a national winner we all be quite happy i think lol Edited June 10, 2014 by walterboswell59
Wiley Posted June 10, 2014 Report Posted June 10, 2014 What can be deemed as a good racer, is first what I'll explain. A winner doesn't mean it's a good racer, I've had many one hit wonders in the past never to take a card again, a good racer is a bird who wins and scores multiple times. A good breeder in my eyes is a bird who breeds the pigeons who score multiple times, but they must breed this sort more then once. Do I believe a breeder, may be the duff brother and sister, I'd say it defiantly could be But I also believe the winning gene can skip a generation, the winner himself may not breed winners but his children may. But I must add I like at least one winner in each generation, so the duff brother or sister would be paired to a proven racer.
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