Tony C Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Seems this is the only vaccine on the market and would like to ask a couple of questions before buying. My main question is do you have to vaccinate them twice? I seem to recall that is the case but my memory isn't the best these days, old age kicking in me thinks.If you do have to vaccinate them twice can this vaccine once opened be kept in the fridge. It would be appreciated if anyone has got the data sheet that come with the vaccine could answer these questions. Thanks in advanceTony
greenlands Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 There's a letter of apology in the pack regards no surgical spirits,now band for transit by Royal Mail.Other info must be stored in fridge,DO NOT FREEZE.Vaccine should be removed from fridge and given enough time to warm to blood temp.No more than 25 birds should be vaccinated with one needle.Other than that it's just instructions on the correct procedure and safety.No mention of the questions you have asked Tony.Four needles and two syringes enclosed with 80 dose.Sorry can't help any further mate,that's your lot. :emoticon-0138-thinking: :emoticon-0138-thinking:
yeboah Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Seems this is the only vaccine on the market and would like to ask a couple of questions before buying. My main question is do you have to vaccinate them twice? I seem to recall that is the case but my memory isn't the best these days, old age kicking in me thinks.If you do have to vaccinate them twice can this vaccine once opened be kept in the fridge. It would be appreciated if anyone has got the data sheet that come with the vaccine could answer these questions. Thanks in advanceTonyHi TonyVaccine is only active from between 10-14 months On the advice of Belgica I will be doing as recommendedFirst jag when they are between 30-35 daysNext one 4 weeks prior to entering race hamper As far as I am concerned a very small price to payRegards Mick Ps just took delivery of two new doses last week ready for their second jag
Wiley Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Nobivac is the only one ive used for a number of years
PIGEON_MAN Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Seems this is the only vaccine on the market and would like to ask a couple of questions before buying. My main question is do you have to vaccinate them twice? I seem to recall that is the case but my memory isn't the best these days, old age kicking in me thinks.If you do have to vaccinate them twice can this vaccine once opened be kept in the fridge. It would be appreciated if anyone has got the data sheet that come with the vaccine could answer these questions. Thanks in advanceTonyNowhere does the manufacturer say that birds have to be injected twice,why people go against this I do not know,all they say about storing the stuff is Use immediately after opening the container
PIGEON_MAN Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Hi TonyVaccine is only active from between 10-14 months On the advice of Belgica I will be doing as recommendedFirst jag when they are between 30-35 daysNext one 4 weeks prior to entering race hamper As far as I am concerned a very small price to payRegards Mick Ps just took delivery of two new doses last week ready for their second jagDo Belgica produce the Nobilis vaccine then.
Kyleakin Lofts Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Do Belgica produce the Nobilis vaccine then. Belgica produce their own vaccine, I'm sure.
Kyleakin Lofts Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Seems this is the only vaccine on the market and would like to ask a couple of questions before buying. My main question is do you have to vaccinate them twice? I seem to recall that is the case but my memory isn't the best these days, old age kicking in me thinks.If you do have to vaccinate them twice can this vaccine once opened be kept in the fridge. It would be appreciated if anyone has got the data sheet that come with the vaccine could answer these questions. Thanks in advanceTony Tony, just in case old age has prevented you from realising, the front wheel is missing from your bike, that's why you don't seem to be going anywhere. :D
PIGEON_MAN Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Belgica produce their own vaccine, I'm sure. Just wondered why someone would follow the advice of Belgica if they dont Manufacture Nobilis, surely you follow the makers advice not another manufacturers.
Tony C Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Posted May 30, 2014 Tony, just in case old age has prevented you from realising, the front wheel is missing from your bike, that's why you don't seem to be going anywhere. :D :lol: That's bec..a..u..s...e.... ah errrr ermmm....... oh $hit! forgot what I was going to say then
Tony C Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Posted May 30, 2014 Seems this is the only vaccine on the market and would like to ask a couple of questions before buying. My main question is do you have to vaccinate them twice? I seem to recall that is the case but my memory isn't the best these days, old age kicking in me thinks.If you do have to vaccinate them twice can this vaccine once opened be kept in the fridge. It would be appreciated if anyone has got the data sheet that come with the vaccine could answer these questions. Thanks in advanceTonyNowhere does the manufacturer say that birds have to be injected twice,why people go against this I do not know,all they say about storing the stuff is Use immediately after opening the container Thanks Tony
walterboswell59 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Seems this is the only vaccine on the market and would like to ask a couple of questions before buying. My main question is do you have to vaccinate them twice? I seem to recall that is the case but my memory isn't the best these days, old age kicking in me thinks.If you do have to vaccinate them twice can this vaccine once opened be kept in the fridge. It would be appreciated if anyone has got the data sheet that come with the vaccine could answer these questions. Thanks in advanceTonytony i did not think you could get nobivac are you sure its not nobilis and all vacine tell you use when opened but a know people put it in the fridge and re use i would not take the chance with my yb when the makers say use when opened ive been told by the makers it only gives full protection if used within 4 hours of being punctured m8 all paramixo vacines are one dose but some guys jag them twice thinking it gives better protection i dont know if its true or not Seems this is the only vaccine on the market and would like to ask a couple of questions before buying. My main question is do you have to vaccinate them twice? I seem to recall that is the case but my memory isn't the best these days, old age kicking in me thinks.If you do have to vaccinate them twice can this vaccine once opened be kept in the fridge. It would be appreciated if anyone has got the data sheet that come with the vaccine could answer these questions. Thanks in advanceTonytony i did not think you could get nobivac are you sure its not nobilis and all vacine tell you use when opened but a know people put it in the fridge and re use i would not take the chance with my yb when the makers say use when opened ive been told by the makers it only gives full protection if used within 4 hours of being punctured m8 all paramixo vacines are one dose but some guys jag them twice thinking it gives better protection i dont know if its true or not
walterboswell59 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Nobivac is the only one ive used for a number of yearswhere are you getting it from wiley ive not been able to get it anywhere m8 and the only other one in the bhw is nobilis which i dont like
Tony C Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Posted May 30, 2014 tony i did not think you could get nobivac are you sure its not nobilis and all vacine tell you use when opened but a know people put it in the fridge and re use i would not take the chance with my yb when the makers say use when opened ive been told by the makers it only gives full protection if used within 4 hours of being punctured m8 all paramixo vacines are one dose but some guys jag them twice thinking it gives better protection i dont know if its true or not tony i did not think you could get nobivac are you sure its not nobilis and all vacine tell you use when opened but a know people put it in the fridge and re use i would not take the chance with my yb when the makers say use when opened ive been told by the makers it only gives full protection if used within 4 hours of being punctured m8 all paramixo vacines are one dose but some guys jag them twice thinking it gives better protection i dont know if its true or notSame thing Walter http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Nobilis-Nobivac-PMV-Vaccine-80-dose/productinfo/NOB8/ For some reason I thought you had to jab them with this twice to obtain full protection, maybe this being available in 80 & 200 dose vials led me to believe that.
Wiley Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 where are you getting it from wiley ive not been able to get it anywhere m8 and the only other one in the bhw is nobilis which i dont like Nobivac, must be slang around these parts for nobilis.
walterboswell59 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Nobivac, must be slang around these parts for nobilis.guys i can asure you they are two different vacines ive used nobivac and nobilis is a different vacine and different bottle as far as i new nobivac was taken off the market years ago
gulkie Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 Tony if you haven't got your vaccine google Vio-vet nobovac 80 dose under £20 including Post, comes warped in a ice pack .and I dont agree with double jagging pigeon men have taken this on them selfs to carry this out .you can get surgical Spirit from the chemist.hope this helps.
Tony C Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Posted May 30, 2014 Tony if you haven't got your vaccine google Vio-vet nobovac 80 dose under £20 including Post, comes warped in a ice pack .and I dont agree with double jagging pigeon men have taken this on them selfs to carry this out .you can get surgical Spirit from the chemist.hope this helps.Thanks, have found the website http://www.viovet.co.uk/Nobivac_PMV_80_Pigeon_Vaccine/c12960/
Wiley Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 guys i can asure you they are two different vacines ive used nobivac and nobilis is a different vacine and different bottle as far as i new nobivac was taken off the market years ago Thanks, have found the website http://www.viovet.co.uk/Nobivac_PMV_80_Pigeon_Vaccine/c12960/ If u look at the link tony just posted Walter it shows nobivac and nobilis are the same, hope it clears it up
JohnQuinn Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 guys i can asure you they are two different vacines ive used nobivac and nobilis is a different vacine and different bottle as far as i new nobivac was taken off the market years ago Seems its the same vaccine Watty as it is advertised as Nobivac (Nobilis) on the websites. May be the case that Nobivac bought the rights to Nobilis and changed the name and bottle !!!!
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