walterboswell59 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 that worked for you i had nest boxes that you could remove the partion and replace with perspex so the birds in each box could see each other and i would move the nest bowls togethere won lots of pools with that one but the ones that stick in my mind was a barren hen i had years ago i had timed two or three times slipping eggs under her but forgot to take the dummy eggs out and had nothing i fancied for hastings that year the hen was in good nick but had been sitting 38 days on dummys so i thought id put a wee youngster under her but the youngest i had in the loft was 14 days old far to big then i rememberd there was a blackbirds nest behind the loft there was 4 yb and an egg the the yb were about three days old so i took one and taped its beak shut and put it under the hen she was 1st club 18th sect 28th open fed 380 miles 3500 birds and all pools the wee blackie was put back and fleged weeks later another was a yrl cheq cock that loved sitting eggs he was sitting a pair and i slipped another under him making three and he was fine but when i added a forth he was very agitated as no matter what he did there was always one sticking out he would push one in at the front and one popped out the back push in the one at the back and one came out the front i let him do this for one hour before basketting he was 1st club 4th sect 12 open maidstone winning 780 pounds what worked for you tell us
andy Burgess Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 great story Wattie , loved it , when I first started I had a young hen sitting a bowl full of "golf balls" (I had no pot eggs) had only started the year before .she was 4th club and (30 ish fed) , not great you may think , yet I had won the first race that year (only my 2nd racing) and had sent my 2 young hens to every club race and not out the first 10 . when the club and fed winning loft in my club was sending around 40 or 50 youngsters each week , he had sent 17 to this final yb race from Picauville (262 miles)he was shocked when I timed her , he had his first drop the following Wednesday , just as he shut the door before flying off to to Spain . I won the yb average that year and the fed birds were around 6,000 at the time .I felt 10 foot tall I can tell you
walterboswell59 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Posted December 7, 2013 great story Wattie , loved it , when I first started I had a young hen sitting a bowl full of "golf balls" (I had no pot eggs) had only started the year before .she was 4th club and (30 ish fed) , not great you may think , yet I had won the first race that year (only my 2nd racing) and had sent my 2 young hens to every club race and not out the first 10 . when the club and fed winning loft in my club was sending around 40 or 50 youngsters each week , he had sent 17 to this final yb race from Picauville (262 miles)he was shocked when I timed her , he had his first drop the following Wednesday , just as he shut the door before flying off to to Spain . I won the yb average that year and the fed birds were around 6,000 at the time .I felt 10 foot tall I can tell you and thats what its all about andy the only feeling to beat it would be having sex under the landing board when it landed lol
andy Burgess Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 and thats what its all about andy the only feeling to beat it would be having sex under the landing board when it landed lol , ha , ha , ha
walterboswell59 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Posted December 7, 2013 , ha , ha , ha think everyones gone to bed andy maybe get more guys telling us there way tomorow m8 ah well cup of tea and off to bed im baby sitting wee ellie tomorow she keeps grandad on his toes lol night pal
andy Burgess Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 think everyones gone to bed andy maybe get more guys telling us there way tomorow m8 ah well cup of tea and off to bed im baby sitting wee ellie tomorow she keeps grandad on his toes lol night palhave baby sat Jackson while Mrs Burgess took the others to a pantomime , glad she was home early so I could pour a glass . tomorrow Wattie
peter pandy Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 In the 70s I used to go to a Guinea fowl breeder and buy a dozen hatching eggs from his incubator and slip them under hens which had been sitting overdue eggs, when they hatched out in the afternoon the chicks would run about the nest box and because I had removed the cocks earlier the hens would be google eyed at them but the amount of winners was exceptional especially when the hen started to chase after up to 4 in a nest box and wondering why they did not want fed. Many winners were clocked under this motivation and poolers were guaranteed. It was a great disappointment when the hatchery closed down.
andy Burgess Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 In the 70s I used to go to a Guinea fowl breeder and buy a dozen hatching eggs from his incubator and slip them under hens which had been sitting overdue eggs, when they hatched out in the afternoon the chicks would run about the nest box and because I had removed the cocks earlier the hens would be google eyed at them but the amount of winners was exceptional especially when the hen started to chase after up to 4 in a nest box and wondering why they did not want fed. Many winners were clocked under this motivation and poolers were guaranteed. It was a great disappointment when the hatchery closed down.great one Peter
peter pandy Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 I can assure you Andy if their was any kind of hatchery for game birds locally I would be their best customer especially for racing under 200 miles. Owen please take note your widowers don't have a look in with hens under this system.
andy Burgess Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 I can assure you Andy if their was any kind of hatchery for game birds locally I would be their best customer especially for racing under 200 miles. Owen please take note your widowers don't have a look in with hens under this system.almost a "widow/natural" style Peter , all about observation at the end of the day I believe
peter pandy Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Yes Andy and I have always maintained observation is the key to success.
peter pandy Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Another little tit-bit Andy is the difference between box perches and V perches. With box the birds stand in their own crap whilst with V perches any bird with no crap on the V is in great order as its droppings are perfect and have rolled off. observation once again.
andy Burgess Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Another little tit-bit Andy is the difference between box perches and V perches. With box the birds stand in their own crap whilst with V perches any bird with no crap on the V is in great order as its droppings are perfect and have rolled off. observation once again. ,
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 The cock that won 1st NW Fed yearling trophy Maidstone for us in 2010, sat a small youngster for five days leading up to basketting without a hen. I picked '47' the cock who had been first to the loft nigh on every week as the pooler though-I'm still waiting on him .Fortunately Wee Billy, our old friend, had the foresight to have a wee flutter on him. This doo changed my views a wee bit on certain things as he was one of three in a drop(including 47) to the loft from the first race of the season in April and was the 2nd in the clock, 2nd club, 11th fed I think(memory) then he was 1st club, 4th fed from the last fed race at the end of June into a North wind. Been trying a lot of things with hens sitting overdue for the national races in the last 3 seasons.It's been a bit hit and miss so far, but once I master it yees are in a power ae bother
buster151 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 well done all on results, some good ideas there
paddymac Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Interesting reading folks, thanks for sharing them with the rest of us
PIGEONPACKMAN Posted December 8, 2013 Report Posted December 8, 2013 a piece of cake normally works for ar lass
Michael J Burden Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 I had just started flying with ybs 1988. The last race was Plymouth My dad was on holiday so not around. I had a blue pied kellens cock who was sitting.I basketted him and placed an eager cock in his box with his hen. I put the basket up so the cock could see this young clock trying it on with his hen. But he never reacted. Sent him and everyone in the club were on within 2 mins of each other. The cock was 17 min in front of all of them. We won the race very easily. Mjb
walterboswell59 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Report Posted February 19, 2014 I had just started flying with ybs 1988. The last race was Plymouth My dad was on holiday so not around. I had a blue pied kellens cock who was sitting.I basketted him and placed an eager cock in his box with his hen. I put the basket up so the cock could see this young clock trying it on with his hen. But he never reacted. Sent him and everyone in the club were on within 2 mins of each other. The cock was 17 min in front of all of them. We won the race very easily. Mjbyes michael used this trick often in short races the quite ones are best as the others run up and down the race basket trying to get out and burn them selves out
Wiley Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 A thing I use to motivate, once in a blue moon, but will only work on pigeons observation in the breeding season, with my widowhood cocks. If I notice an extra keen cock on young birds and eggs you'll generally find it can work when they're on widowhood. On a Friday night, turn all bowls over, and on the cock you've done your observational homework on, get a 10 day old young bird from stock loft, and place it into his bowl, with another bowl on top about 3/4, so the cock can just see and hear the young un, do not let him into his bowl side yet, observe how he is acting, if his acting aggressive forget it, if his calm allow him into his box, keep observing, if still calm, take the bowl that was resting on top of, and continue observing, if your observations in breeding season was right you'll be amazed. The cock will sit on the young and go to feed him, once his fed the young put him in the basket with your money on him.
walterboswell59 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Report Posted February 19, 2014 heres another way to stimulate your bests cocks put a strange cock in his box with his hen then let the racing cock in to fight and throw the stranger out the box then put the racing cock in a basket for 10 mins while puting the stranger back in the box open the trap and let the racing cock out the basket and into the loft to throw the stranger out his box repeat this three times leaving him in the basket longer each time the third time should be just before basketing after hes been in the basket an hour or longer and most important make sure he wins the fight then basket him and off to the club but again must be a cock with a quite nature or they go nuts trying to get out the basket
andy Burgess Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 some great tips , I hope my club-mates aren't looking in
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