pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 Just thought I would let the owners know that there are 3 strays away in the strag basket tonight that all came in at Edinburgh. DK.GRIZZLE SU 13 AB 2215 ( plus telephone ring.) LT. CH. SU 13 L 16233 BLUE SU 13 L 4437 ( wing stamped NEWMAINS )
Williedoo Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 Just thought I would let the owners know that there are 3 strays away in the strag basket tonight that all came in at Edinburgh. DK.GRIZZLE SU 13 AB 2215 ( plus telephone ring.) LT. CH. SU 13 L 16233 BLUE SU 13 L 4437 ( wing stamped NEWMAINS )2215 is mine,lost last week from Ripon, thanks for doing that.
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 2215 is mine,lost last week from Ripon, thanks for doing that.No problem. Nice pigeon, good condition too
TheHigg Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 2215 is mine,lost last week from Ripon, thanks for doing that.what use are tel rings os is it cheaper to get it in the stray basket i know with the amount ive dropped this season i would preffer the basket [5 pounds] rather than a courier [30 or 40 pounds]
andy Burgess Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 Just thought I would let the owners know that there are 3 strays away in the strag basket tonight that all came in at Edinburgh. DK.GRIZZLE SU 13 AB 2215 ( plus telephone ring.) LT. CH. SU 13 L 16233 BLUE SU 13 L 4437 ( wing stamped NEWMAINS )well done
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 what use are tel rings os is it cheaper to get it in the stray basket i know with the amount ive dropped this season i would preffer the basket [5 pounds] rather than a courier [30 or 40 pounds] I think telephone rings are fine if the bird is found by a member of the public as it gives the finder direct contact with the owner instead of them having to search for information on how to trace an owner, and they may not know where to start.As far as pigeon fanciers go I don’t think they make that much difference. I usually call all numbers and then end up chatting away for longer than necessary and sometimes my call is as much as it would cost the owner to get the bird back via the strag basket lol. It can also be frustrating at times when there is still no answer after several attempts of calling. One or two strays is fine but if you get in quite a few then the personal phone call bill can be quite high. A couple of phone calls were made in this case without success and a quick post on pb usually is enough to let the owner know at least where their bird came in about. Which is about as much info on the bird that you would be able to tell them on the phone anyway.Like I say, they are a godsend to joe public but don’t think a lot of fanciers pay too much attention to them these days. With so many losses its so many calls they would have to make. Its like paying all your club/fed fees etc and a separate fee each year for reporting strays. It doesn’t really bother me financially but I think in general that cost would be high for those least able to afford it.I think the strag basket is a godsend for some and financially better for owner and finder alike. If you can let an owner know to expect a bird soon and where it went in about through another channel like pb then the jobs a good un.
ALF Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 DONT KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE BUT I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA OF A TELEPHONE RING IS THE GUY WANTS A PHONE CALL AS SOON AS IT GOES INTO A STRANGE LOFT OR WHY USE THEM????
Ian McKay Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 what use are tel rings os is it cheaper to get it in the stray basket i know with the amount ive dropped this season i would preffer the basket [5 pounds] rather than a courier [30 or 40 pounds] In the case of 2215 it would have been home by now as it is it's on it's way to the stray centre As Aberdeen Fed are finished racing it will not be picked up so wonder how the stray centre will handle that one poor bird will just have to sit there till someone sorts it out
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 DONT KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE BUT I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA OF A TELEPHONE RING IS THE GUY WANTS A PHONE CALL AS SOON AS IT GOES INTO A STRANGE LOFT OR WHY USE THEM????In an ideal world I completely agree with you. Sadly this is not an ideal world. Many have to use them because of UNION rules and some who do use them are greatfull that they don’t get EVERY stray reported to them or it would break the bank. Some breed more than they need just to cover losses and what you say is or was true a few year ago perhaps? Only those who bothered to use these rings wanted them back and the reason they put them on in the first place. I don’t think it’s the case these days though when UNIONS are forcing the use of these rings or wing stamps. Fanciers in certain unions are having to use these and those breeding rubbish year in year out are not interested in ANY of their lost birds being reported and the expense they are about to incur. Many fanciers are not interested in birds that have went into another loft either so the phone call to them makes no difference. They had to use these rings.It was good in YESTERYEAR when only a few used these rings as you know they wanted their bird back with a phone call before you even made it. It also I think was the cause of some being kept and not reported at all by the less scrupulous. If you had a stray then there was a good chance it was decent bred if it carried a phone ring and that was the other side of the coin.Like I say though, I agree with what you say in theory but in these days where unions make members use them then sadly it’s a different case. JMO.
ALF Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 NEVER HAD A STRAY IN THAT HAS HAD A PHONE NUMBER RING YET THAT I HAVE'NT PHONED THE OWNER WITHIN A COUPLE OF MINUTES OF NOTICING THE STRAY
Ian McKay Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 In an ideal world I completely agree with you. Sadly this is not an ideal world. Many have to use them because of UNION rules and some who do use them are greatfull that they don’t get EVERY stray reported to them or it would break the bank. Some breed more than they need just to cover losses and what you say is or was true a few year ago perhaps? Only those who bothered to use these rings wanted them back and the reason they put them on in the first place. I don’t think it’s the case these days though when UNIONS are forcing the use of these rings or wing stamps. Fanciers in certain unions are having to use these and those breeding rubbish year in year out are not interested in ANY of their lost birds being reported and the expense they are about to incur. Many fanciers are not interested in birds that have went into another loft either so the phone call to them makes no difference. They had to use these rings.It was good in YESTERYEAR when only a few used these rings as you know they wanted their bird back with a phone call before you even made it. It also I think was the cause of some being kept and not reported at all by the less scrupulous. If you had a stray then there was a good chance it was decent bred if it carried a phone ring and that was the other side of the coin.Like I say though, I agree with what you say in theory but in these days where unions make members use them then sadly it’s a different case. JMO. The 3 birds you sent to the stray centre were Scottish it's not SHU rules to put phone rings on
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 In the case of 2215 it would have been home by now as it is it's on it's way to the stray centre As Aberdeen Fed are finished racing it will not be picked up so wonder how the stray centre will handle that one poor bird will just have to sit there till someone sorts it out I am sure that 2215 wont be the only stray from Aberdeen to go into a strag basket at any of the Scottish clubs tonight so they will all be in the same boat. You cant blame decent fanciers for doing the right thing and not knowing when your fed has finished up? At least WILLIEDOO has the information beforehand to make any necessary phone calls. The rest of the birds will need to ride it out for a while I guess????
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 The 3 birds you sent to the stray centre were Scottish it's not SHU rules to put phone rings onDidn't say it was, I said some unions. Our own fed told us this year that we had to use telephone rings or wing stamps which I did and others didn't. Anyone else want to rip into me for doing the right thing?
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 NEVER HAD A STRAY IN THAT HAS HAD A PHONE NUMBER RING YET THAT I HAVE'NT PHONED THE OWNER WITHIN A COUPLE OF MINUTES OF NOTICING THE STRAYPower to you mate. Sadly everyone is not like you.
ALF Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 Power to you mate. Sadly everyone is not like you.CANNAE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDNAE PHONE THE NUMBER ON THE RING AND LET THE OWNER KNOW WHERE THE YB IS??? MAYBE JUST ME THOUGH
bigjamie Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 WE SHOULD BE GREATFUL FOLK LIKE PIGEON 359 DO THIS WELL DONE MATE
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 CANNAE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULDNAE PHONE THE NUMBER ON THE RING AND LET THE OWNER KNOW WHERE THE YB IS??? MAYBE JUST ME THOUGH You cannae understand why I wouldnae phone the number? Read the posts mate before you try to criticise or nit pick! I said a couple of calls were made without success. I happen to work nights and sleep a lot of the day. Finding the right time to call someone so it doesn't disturb their home time is the thing. I have other more important issues in my life than running about after strays. I do what I can for them, more than I can say for a lot of others, and if that's not enough for you mate then tough! You worry about your strays and I will worry about mine.
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 WE SHOULD BE GREATFUL FOLK LIKE PIGEON 359 DO THIS WELL DONE MATE Ta bj appreciate it:)
1967 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 Didn't say it was, I said some unions. Our own fed told us this year that we had to use telephone rings or wing stamps which I did and others didn't. Anyone else want to rip into me for doing the right thing?I was at the shu meeting .No youngbirds were to go into any race baskets without being wing stamped or phone ring on leg
MIK Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 In an ideal world I completely agree with you. Sadly this is not an ideal world. Many have to use them because of UNION rules and some who do use them are greatfull that they don’t get EVERY stray reported to them or it would break the bank. Some breed more than they need just to cover losses and what you say is or was true a few year ago perhaps? Only those who bothered to use these rings wanted them back and the reason they put them on in the first place. I don’t think it’s the case these days though when UNIONS are forcing the use of these rings or wing stamps. Fanciers in certain unions are having to use these and those breeding rubbish year in year out are not interested in ANY of their lost birds being reported and the expense they are about to incur. Many fanciers are not interested in birds that have went into another loft either so the phone call to them makes no difference. They had to use these rings.It was good in YESTERYEAR when only a few used these rings as you know they wanted their bird back with a phone call before you even made it. It also I think was the cause of some being kept and not reported at all by the less scrupulous. If you had a stray then there was a good chance it was decent bred if it carried a phone ring and that was the other side of the coin.Like I say though, I agree with what you say in theory but in these days where unions make members use them then sadly it’s a different case. JMO. IM not Scottish, and i buy phone number rings from Lambournes every 2 years. As soon as ybs are weaned or any new stock comes to my loft , the pnone clip ring goes on. If anyone got one of my birds in i would always appreciate the call. Collect when i can and if not send for courier if needed. But 9 times out of 10 the fancier phoning me is genuine and will help all he can. So in my imo the phone rings help retrieve birds and also let you know where they ended up if not possible to collect yourself, and i think its wrong in your part not to contact the number ...just to let him know. Ok PB is your out and phone calls can run a bill.( i understand ur point of view) but i dont agree with it. Thats your decision. I hope none of mine land in Edinburgh. atbMick
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 I was at the shu meeting .No youngbirds were to go into any race baskets without being wing stamped or phone ring on legThat's what I heard too. I ordered my wing stamp as soon as I could but when it didn't arrive before the first race I was on the phone argueing with the guy. Luckily I wasn't going to the first race so all was well as it arrived soon after. I was under that impression myself though so ta for clarifying:)
1967 Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 That's what I heard too. I ordered my wing stamp as soon as I could but when it didn't arrive before the first race I was on the phone argueing with the guy. Luckily I wasn't going to the first race so all was well as it arrived soon after. I was under that impression myself though so ta for clarifying:)Front page of shu ring list.Check pigeons wing for stamp giving owners tel number
pigeon359 Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 IM not Scottish, and i buy phone number rings from Lambournes every 2 years. As soon as ybs are weaned or any new stock comes to my loft , the pnone clip ring goes on. If anyone got one of my birds in i would always appreciate the call. Collect when i can and if not send for courier if needed. But 9 times out of 10 the fancier phoning me is genuine and will help all he can. So in my imo the phone rings help retrieve birds and also let you know where they ended up if not possible to collect yourself, and i think its wrong in your part not to contact the number ...just to let him know. Ok PB is your out and phone calls can run a bill.( i understand ur point of view) but i dont agree with it. Thats your decision. I hope none of mine land in Edinburgh. atbMickSo that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it. Whatever mate. I am not even racing this week and went to the club especially for the strag basket when I could have been doing other things! Are you another one who doesn’t read posts correctly? I said I did call the number twice without success and I have other more important issues in my life to contend with that you or anyone else knows nothing about. You continue reporting strays in a manner you see fit and I will do what I can from my end. If you don’t want any of your birds to land in Edinburgh then send me a list of the ones you have lost and I will make sure I don’t bother reporting them if I get them in:) P.S. I happen to be at work right now and didn't come on here to defend myself. I am letting the owners know where their birds are so what problem is it of yours or anyone else how I go about it? If this is the way you all want to spend a Friday night nit picking then all I can say is get a life. Right now I am busy. STAY CALM AND ENJOY YOUR PIGEONS. ATB:) Front page of shu ring list.Check pigeons wing for stamp giving owners tel numberCORRECT MATE.
MIK Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 So that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it. Whatever mate. I am not even racing this week and went to the club especially for the strag basket when I could have been doing other things! Are you another one who doesn’t read posts correctly? I said I did call the number twice without success and I have other more important issues in my life to contend with that you or anyone else knows nothing about. You continue reporting strays in a manner you see fit and I will do what I can from my end. If you don’t want any of your birds to land in Edinburgh then send me a list of the ones you have lost and I will make sure I don’t bother reporting them if I get them in:) P.S. I happen to be at work right now and didn't come on here to defend myself. I am letting the owners know where their birds are so what problem is it of yours or anyone else how I go about it? If this is the way you all want to spend a Friday night nit picking then all I can say is get a life. Right now I am busy. STAY CALM AND ENJOY YOUR PIGEONS. ATB:) Pigeon359 i did read posts but read it as ye couldnt be bothered to try and phone after 1 or 2 failed attempts i wasnt nit picking ...i only gave my point of view, credit goes to urself for trying and getting them to stray center and posting list on here...many wouldnt. granted more to life than pigeons.... hoping any of mine dont end up in Edinburgh was a joke at the end without a smiley now get back to work while i finish me botlle :lol: Mick
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