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[yeboah]

I have a cheq pied yearling cock who has raced very well this year actually was proving to be one of the better one,s after a race of approx 180mls he homed very well but looked a wee bit tired when one's returning after him did not,

Sent him to 200 plus the following week again up with the leaders but again a bit tired looking so decided to stop him as I was not happy as to why this was happening ,He has been in a section with the other cocks and moulting fine ,I feed water and clean them each day but am not one for handling them when there is no need ,noticed his wing a bit out yesterday and on examination found a very large lump like blister hanging from the underside of his wing ,took him to the vet who put him to sleep and removed it she says he came round really well and is of good health but there are other smaller growths on the other wing she thinks it may be cancerous and to keep an eye on them as they can be removed if they get larger ,never in forty plus years seen anything like this ,anyone know what it could be ,He eats well and shows no signs of illness as the vet stated replies would be appreciated thanks Mick .

[Guest chad3646]

I have a cheq pied yearling cock who has raced very well this year actually was proving to be one of the better one,s after a race of approx 180mls he homed very well but looked a wee bit tired when one's returning after him did not,

Sent him to 200 plus the following week again up with the leaders but again a bit tired looking so decided to stop him as I was not happy as to why this was happening ,He has been in a section with the other cocks and moulting fine ,I feed water and clean them each day but am not one for handling them when there is no need ,noticed his wing a bit out yesterday and on examination found a very large lump like blister hanging from the underside of his wing ,took him to the vet who put him to sleep and removed it she says he came round really well and is of good health but there are other smaller growths on the other wing she thinks it may be cancerous and to keep an eye on them as they can be removed if they get larger ,never in forty plus years seen anything like this ,anyone know what it could be ,He eats well and shows no signs of illness as the vet stated replies would be appreciated thanks Mick .

we had a good chequer pied cock who won many races, he developed the same symtoms asyour pigeon we stopped him racing and he went on two breed some right good winning pigeons

[airdrie2]

have seen this on this site before and iremember some of the answers were a growth due to too much proten tie with tread and will go hard and drop off ? maybe one of the mods will be able to direct you to previous answers on this

[Delboy]

If its covered in lumps, im afraid to say m8, Wheelie bin

[Guest chad3646]

have seen this on this site before and iremember some of the answers were a growth due to too much proten tie with tread and will go hard and drop off ? maybe one of the mods will be able to direct you to previous answers on this

 

 

airdrie2 youv,e got to beware what type of growth it has

[hawked again]

have seen this on this site before and iremember some of the answers were a growth due to too much proten tie with tread and will go hard and drop off ? maybe one of the mods will be able to direct you to previous answers on this

 

I've had one with protein lumps. They came up all over the bird almost in front of my eyes. No one I knew had seen anything like it before so the bird, a very good one was put to heaven. I mentioned it to Blue Checker Pied just a few weeks ago and another club member, both of them said it was protein lumps straight away. Both club members said that they had seen this before and it went away when less protein was fed.

 

Although it was eating the same mix as the others it may have been picking out the seeds it liked the best so was the only one affected.

[airdrie2]

airdrie2 youv,e got to beware what type of growth it has

chad only letting the guy know that there has been previous posts on this and what i remember it saying and mods may be able to direct him to previous posts

[Delboy]

If its covered in lumps, im afraid to say m8, Wheelie bin

 

single lumps = high rich , protein diet, a lot of lumps = wheelie.

[William Reid]

single lumps = high rich , protein diet, a lot of lumps = wheelie.

Totally agree Del . Don't think there is a family of van lumps :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[Delboy]

Totally agree Del . Don't think there is a family of van lumps :emoticon-0136-giggle:

 

pmsfl

[Guest chad3646]

Totally agree Del . Don't think there is a family of van lumps :emoticon-0136-giggle:

 

 

i fully expected a lot of moronic comments on this topic im not dissapointed the guy is asking a serious question lol

[MIK]

i fully expected a lot of moronic comments on this topic im not dissapointed the guy is asking a serious question lol

 

Chad doesnt matter what the replys are...replys are replys whether good or bad

 

Mick bottom line is lots of lumps = problems ...race out to get rid

breed off and your only increasing your chances of seeing it again.

 

JMO

Mick

[Guest Owen]

I think that you have some good answers to your question. The first thing is to check your other pigeons to see if they are suffering with lumps because I have found that pigeon health issues are rarely confined to just one bird unless of course it is from an accident. You know what diet you feed to your pigeons so perhaps you should consider reducing the protein levels by using barley early in the week. The next thing is to look at the birds bred from the same parents to see if there is a pattern there because sometimes these things run in families. Breast canker in women is an example. I know that it is disappointing but as has already been said you may be wise to get rid of the bird because you certainly don't want a strain of birds which are prone to cancer.

[Guest IB]

I think the warning bells are in the vet's discovery that there is more than one lump and they may be cancerous - cancerous tumours have blood vessels so are connected to the rest of the body and can spread. The 'other lump' in the thread is usually limited to just one and it’s fairly common, fanciers usually put it down to too much protein, it has a name - fatty lipoma - and is a normal fat store that has 'liquidised' then travels outwards through the skin - where it bursts and is messy, but although there's blood, this type of lump never had blood vessels – there is nothing to tie off - and the blood comes from the skin rupturing, so it’s unlikely to spread. There is another big difference too, your 'cancerous' lumps seem to be ‘draining’ the birds stamina during flight. The lipoma one doesn't do that. Cancer isn't contagious as it is a disease of the self - but it can ‘pass’ between generations, through genes.

[walterboswell59]

mik if its just what we call blood boils its not a problem m8 just tie it off with thread or twine it will fall off the bird will be fine and as owen said some barley in the feed or brewers yeast or both will sort it out if same bird keeps getting them after that wheelie time

[yeboah]

Thanks for the replies ,have witnessed protein lumps on other fanciers pigeons definitely not that .

Cancer seems the likely cause I will address the issue in the proper manner .

[philg50]

I seem to remember from when i first had birds about 15 yr ago i came upon this and after investigation through various vets etc that if the bluddy lumps were on the joints it could show they were carriers of salomonela ,as someone said before tie themm of with piece of thread to cut of blood supply and they drop off dont breed with them ,thats just something else to put in the possible tray.

[Guest chad3646]

I seem to remember from when i first had birds about 15 yr ago i came upon this and after investigation through various vets etc that if the bluddy lumps were on the joints it could show they were carriers of salomonela ,as someone said before tie themm of with piece of thread to cut of blood supply and they drop off dont breed with them ,thats just something else to put in the possible tray.

 

 

if they were carriers of salmonella i know where i would tie the thread