Proposal

[geordie1234]

I saw this on another site and thought it was a great proposal

 

All to often there are fanciers trying to join Clubs who refuse their entry without a valid reason. Most of the time the refusal is based on facts which are either false or fabricated.

 

Most of the time these fanciers are declined simply because they are good flyers. Jealousy or fear of being beaten finds them being turned away. When these fanciers speak out they are branded trouble makes. Their fate is then sealed under this false assumption.

 

A new proposal to take to the RPRA

 

Any fancier who resides within a Club Radius or within a Radius determined by the RPRA automatically qualifies for membership of that Club unless the applicant has been previously expelled, suspended or found to be unfit to keep Racing Pigeon by the RPRA.

 

The rule allows the sport to be fair and rule out biased behavior by individual within Clubs or Club Committees.

Views appreciated.

[Delboy]

What can I say George, :emoticon-0137-clapping: Ive been trying to get the SHU to do the same. Five years I am without a club and its ok saying join Bonnybridge or Uddingston or Burnbank,( still wont be in fed radius ) the travelling to these clubs makes it pointless unless they had their clock check the following day to accommodate outlying fanciers. The bottom line is, everyone should be entitled to fly in their area unless they are, as you stated above.

[andy Burgess]

its good in principal , although very black & white .still to many if,s but,s and maybe,s

[Walter swanston]

I travel 74 miles each weekend to race pigeons as does Yeboah,the first paragraph of this proposal is garbage as is the second I have some slight experience in these matters and know of no occasion where applications have been refused out of spite or jealously

[Tony C]

How about all application are to be sent to the region/union, the region/union then send these to clubs where your address falls within their boundaries. The clubs take a vote and if they reject the application they must inform the region/union as to why. If the region/union feel the grounds are not valid they have the power to overturn the clubs decision.

[Walter swanston]

The unions are to impose members on clubs wether they like it or not please tellme you are joking

[Delboy]

How about all application are to be sent to the region/union, the region/union then send these to clubs where your address falls within their boundaries. The clubs take a vote and if they reject the application they must inform the region/union as to why. If the region/union feel the grounds are not valid they have the power to overturn the clubs decision.

 

Spot on

[Delboy]

I travel 74 miles each weekend to race pigeons as does Yeboah,the first paragraph of this proposal is garbage as is the second I have some slight experience in these matters and know of no occasion where applications have been refused out of spite or jealously

 

You are not as experienced as you think then Walter, do you think the men turning down applications would admit to being jealous and spiteful??, NO, THEY WOULD USE ANY OTHER EXCUSE THEY COULD CONJOUR UP. You are living in an airy fairy world.

[Walter swanston]

This ain't all black and white what about a person that no one wants for good and sufficient reasons which I cannot really discuss on this site .There is nothing personal in this Delboy I am just telling it as Ihave found it and quite willing to concede that I am not as experienced as some, then maybe not.

[Delboy]

This ain't all black and white what about a person that no one wants for good and sufficient reasons which I cannot really discuss on this site .There is nothing personal in this Delboy I am just telling it as Ihave found it and quite willing to concede that I am not as experienced as some, then maybe not.

 

Your definitely right, it isn't clear cut.There are some undesirables in the game that nobody wants but, there are also some injustices taken with fanciers and its this side of the sport that has to be addressed

[Tony C]

The unions are to impose members on clubs wether they like it or not please tellme you are joking

 

How else would you suggest allowing a good fanciers into a club where members are afraid of the competition?

 

I grant you that there are undesirables out there, if that is the reason why an application is rejected I'm sure that would be looked into by the region/union and if can be proven they'd rubber stamp the clubs decision. I do feel though good fanciers are to easily tagged as an 'undesirable' as an excuse to not allow them into a club.

[Walter swanston]

How else would you suggest allowing a good fanciers into a club where members are afraid of the competition?

 

I grant you that there are undesirables out there, if that is the reason why an application is rejected I'm sure that would be looked into by the region/union and if can be proven they'd rubber stamp the clubs decision. I do feel though good fanciers are to easily tagged as an 'undesirable' as an excuse to not allow them into a club.

 

I am sorry but I feel that pigeon clubs must be allowed autonomy over their affairs.

[geordie1234]

Just look a les green nobody excepting him? I wonder why eh? Is it because he can fly a pigeon

[Delboy]

Ye know, its quite simple, every club can write into their constitution what it expects from its members ie ( must help equally in all club duties,if able, must be sporting and friendly etc ) and if the new member doesn't tick all the boxes after a probationary 2 years then the club has the right to expel him.Dont know if this would work but its definitely something to think about and food for thought.The sport is dying and we knock back new members, unbelievable.

[Guest bigda]

on that ruling DEL and under the proposals then Glasgow can not refuse you permission to join them, if they are the RPRA you know Del that lanarkshire cant open up its border any further, as it then becomes strathclyde, not lanarkshire, then that in turn would just about finish the national off. the lanarkshire AGM that can be hard enough to listen too at times, but can you imagine the agenda and what that would be like, why cant we get in here in Stirling.

[Delboy]

on that ruling DEL and under the proposals then Glasgow can not refuse you permission to join them, if they are the RPRA you know Del that lanarkshire cant open up its border any further, as it then becomes strathclyde, not lanarkshire, then that in turn would just about finish the national off. the lanarkshire AGM that can be hard enough to listen too at times, but can you imagine the agenda and what that would be like, why cant we get in here in Stirling.

 

Very true Danny

[Pelican]

It's a disgrace what Glasgow fed done to big del

[hotrod]

It's a disgrace what Glasgow fed done to big del

You need to rephrase that not Glasgow fed mate , clubs in the fed that wont let del in not the fed mate , a federation can't stop anyone from joining its the club members that stop them joining .

[geordie1234]

You need to rephrase that not Glasgow fed mate , clubs in the fed that wont let del in not the fed mate , a federation can't stop anyone from joining its the club members that stop them joining .

Stuart tried to pm you but your inbox is full pal

[hotrod]

Stuart tried to pm you but your inbox is full pal

Done now geo .

[Delboy]

You need to rephrase that not Glasgow fed mate , clubs in the fed that wont let del in not the fed mate , a federation can't stop anyone from joining its the club members that stop them joining .

 

Who runs Glasgow fed Stu and who says to the clubs whats what, with a gun to there head ? I think Pelican was right enough.

[Guest chad3646]

why wont they let delboy fly in the clubs, there must be a reason

[harky]

Derek try Motherwell in the Lanarkshire fed , they are expanding there radius and will take all comers as camby has killed our section in the fed , they will not knock you back and anyone else is also welcome. :animatedpigeons: :animatedpigeons:

[hotrod]

Who runs Glasgow fed Stu and who says to the clubs whats what, with a gun to there head ? I think Pelican was right enough.

No chance del , I've just spoken to the man himself there and at a meeting in Clydebank a few years back he spoke up for u , but the members decided to reject your application anything that's been said about gg is utter fabrication , as I've already said the members of each club decide who gets in no one else .and I can assure you gg does not tell clubs what's what , well 100% no chance with Clydebank .

[Delboy]

No chance del , I've just spoken to the man himself there and at a meeting in Clydebank a few years back he spoke up for u , but the members decided to reject your application anything that's been said about gg is utter fabrication , as I've already said the members of each club decide who gets in no one else .and I can assure you gg does not tell clubs what's what , well 100% no chance with Clydebank .

 

Sorry big fella but you are very ill informed. Thats a fact. Glasgow members on here can confirm what im saying. expletive remove, do you think he would own up to it , lol. Another thing, do ye think I would make this stuff up, expletive remove.