Lanarkshire Training Cancelled Monday 8Th

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Training from Elsrickle cancelled Monday 8th, with full cloud cover and very low tempatures, the weather not suitable for a first training flight for the federation.

 

Best Regards

Gareth

[ALF]

That's fair enough we have to give the pigeons a chance at the start of the season :emoticon-0157-sun:

[Guest stb-]

its showing rain mond ay tues wed thursaday with thurs the warmest at 13,,00 hours of 8 degrees the other days are 6 , went bloody cold this afternoon again with that nor east wind whipping up again . :crying:

[Delboy]

Fking freezing oot there, my doos wont be out the loft never mind training expletive remove.

[geordie1234]

Just took the dog a walk fekin baltic

[ALF]

Been east winds for the last couple of weeks changed to west yesterday and i had a 3yr old cock broke his wing and today the wind changes back to east and the temp drops again expletive remove god help us!!!

[walterboswell59]

Been east winds for the last couple of weeks changed to west yesterday and i had a 3yr old cock broke his wing and today the wind changes back to east and the temp drops again expletive remove god help us!!!

was it the west wing or the east wing alan

[ALF]

was it the west wing or the east wing alan

-Am no sure Wattie but he wulnae tell any *expletive removed* as he has been deid for 5 hours now!!!

[walterboswell59]

-Am no sure Wattie but he wulnae tell any *expletive removed* as he has been deid for 5 hours now!!!

hard enough to get them to 3 yr old m8

[walterboswell59]

hard enough to get them to 3 yr old m8

i just phoned my old m8 peter to tell him fed not going but he is not going till tues anyway just in case the poor old bugger was basketing in the morning

[lanarkshire lad]

Started training this morning with most of the usual guys and went to pick up at uddingston club premises where there were guys turning up to train with the transporter which unfortunately had been cancelled. I took what I had on board and we a great wee first toss it was a bit cold but it could be next month before the weather warms up so do you wait until then to start training????? what crosses my mind is will this fed training be financially viable when you take EVERYTHING into consideration????? EG Diesel costs,, drivers to be paid, wear and tear on these new transporters which is very hard to calculate plus the competition which is around Lanarkshire with training trailers which have been going for years and have served the fanciers well over the years I suppose time will tell.

[highwings]

Started training this morning with most of the usual guys and went to pick up at uddingston club premises where there were guys turning up to train with the transporter which unfortunately had been cancelled. I took what I had on board and we a great wee first toss it was a bit cold but it could be next month before the weather warms up so do you wait until then to start training????? what crosses my mind is will this fed training be financially viable when you take EVERYTHING into consideration????? EG Diesel costs,, drivers to be paid, wear and tear on these new transporters which is very hard to calculate plus the competition which is around Lanarkshire with training trailers which have been going for years and have served the fanciers well over the years I suppose time will tell.

we had a great toss from elsrickle this morning as well jim atb :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Started training this morning with most of the usual guys and went to pick up at uddingston club premises where there were guys turning up to train with the transporter which unfortunately had been cancelled. I took what I had on board and we a great wee first toss it was a bit cold but it could be next month before the weather warms up so do you wait until then to start training????? what crosses my mind is will this fed training be financially viable when you take EVERYTHING into consideration????? EG Diesel costs,, drivers to be paid, wear and tear on these new transporters which is very hard to calculate plus the competition which is around Lanarkshire with training trailers which have been going for years and have served the fanciers well over the years I suppose time will tell.

 

Regards to taking the other guys, then well done Jim on helping these guys out, im sure its very much appreciated by them. Also glad you got a great toss for the first one. I took the decision, unhappy that i had to take it as i have got enough on my plate, anyway last night the forecast was not suitable for my doos, full cloud cover and minus tempatures, so not ideal for mass liberation's, especially when its the first one in the new vehicle. Its the coldest day we have had since a week past Saturday.

 

Regards to the running costs, leave that to me Jim, i can guarantee that it will not loose money. At the very outset i have maintained that as this is a new venture of training for the Lanarkshire members then flexibility will be required till we find our feet with regards to the demand, therefor as there is not a great deal of demand for training at present, then only one vehicle will be travelling to train the pigeons for the coming 1-2 weeks, this decisions was made last night after conferring with the other officials of the federation.

 

These details will be put up later.

 

Hope this answers your post.

 

ATB

Gareth

 

we had a great toss from elsrickle this morning as well jim atb :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

[lanarkshire lad]

Regards to taking the other guys, then well done Jim on helping these guys out, im sure its very much appreciated by them. Also glad you got a great toss for the first one. I took the decision, unhappy that i had to take it as i have got enough on my plate, anyway last night the forecast was not suitable for my doos, full cloud cover and minus tempatures, so not ideal for mass liberation's, especially when its the first one in the new vehicle. Its the coldest day we have had since a week past Saturday.

 

Regards to the running costs, leave that to me Jim, i can guarantee that it will not loose money. At the very outset i have maintained that as this is a new venture of training for the Lanarkshire members then flexibility will be required till we find our feet with regards to the demand, therefor as there is not a great deal of demand for training at present, then only one vehicle will be travelling to train the pigeons for the coming 1-2 weeks, this decisions was made last night after conferring with the other officials of the federation.

 

These details will be put up later.

 

Hope this answers your post.

 

ATB

Gareth

 

 

Gareth I admire your confidence but can I ask again How are you going to calculate the costs of wear and tear to these vehicles??? or will this be deducted from the profit margin if there is any???

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Gareth I admire your confidence but can I ask again How are you going to calculate the costs of wear and tear to these vehicles??? or will this be deducted from the profit margin if there is any???

The profit will more than cover the cost of wear and tear, more importantly the members will have an opportunity to have there pigeons transported by proper methods, and please don't take that the wrong way, by that i mean, myself and others wouldn't put there pigeons in shelving were mass pigeons are put in. I haven't been in a training van for 20 years, that's my choice. Health is a major issue these days, so in my eyes, as well as many other fanciers, the best way for pigeons to travel is to have them in crates that can be cleansed for hygiene purposes, even more so when you can have a crate to themselves.

 

Hope this answers you fears.

 

Remember Jim !! Trial and Error, everyday were learning.

[Guest chad3646]

The profit will more than cover the cost of wear and tear, more importantly the members will have an opportunity to have there pigeons transported by proper methods, and please don't take that the wrong way, by that i mean, myself and others wouldn't put there pigeons in shelving were mass pigeons are put in. I haven't been in a training van for 20 years, that's my choice. Health is a major issue these days, so in my eyes, as well as many other fanciers, the best way for pigeons to travel is to have them in crates that can be cleansed for hygiene purposes, even more so when you can have a crate to themselves.

 

Hope this answers you fears.

 

Remember Jim !! Trial and Error, everyday were learning.

 

 

gareth are you saying that you have not used the training wagon for twenty years

 

 

 

 

 

what about the low waters training wagon when they held there open races

 

 

 

and that was all shelfs if i am wrong i apologise

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

gareth are you saying that you have not used the training wagon for twenty years

 

 

 

 

 

what about the low waters training wagon when they held there open races

 

 

 

and that was all shelfs if i am wrong i apologise

Well the doos have been in Larkhall since 2002 and i have not trained doos on that vehicle since being here, have sent 5 racing pigeons to race when occasionally they had an OPEN race as that was there limit, but that's going back a long time.

 

The last time i recall taking my full team of pigeons to a training van was back when the Larkhall training van use to call into the Late Willie Wilsons yard, Willie must have passed away about 1994 ??

[lanarkshire lad]

The profit will more than cover the cost of wear and tear, more importantly the members will have an opportunity to have there pigeons transported by proper methods, and please don't take that the wrong way, by that i mean, myself and others wouldn't put there pigeons in shelving were mass pigeons are put in. I haven't been in a training van for 20 years, that's my choice. Health is a major issue these days, so in my eyes, as well as many other fanciers, the best way for pigeons to travel is to have them in crates that can be cleansed for hygiene purposes, even more so when you can have a crate to themselves.

 

Hope this answers you fears.

 

Remember Jim !! Trial and Error, everyday were learning.

By the way don't take what I am asking the wrong way as I might have to use the Transporter for training. The trailer I have has grills fitted in every shelf so there is no contact with droppings and if a pigeon is sick then the other pigeons cant get to it as the grills are too deep,plus I spray it out regular with virkon S but even after all these precautions its practically impossible to stop the spread of an airbourne virus and that goes for any transport where pigeons are in a confined space ATB the new season.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

By the way don't take what I am asking the wrong way as I might have to use the Transporter for training. The trailer I have has grills fitted in every shelf so there is no contact with droppings and if a pigeon is sick then the other pigeons cant get to it as the grills are too deep,plus I spray it out regular with virkon S but even after all these precautions its practically impossible to stop the spread of an airbourne virus and that goes for any transport where pigeons are in a confined space ATB the new season.

A great service you provide, especially with the grills on board. But you are unable to take pigeons on your small trailer from a possible 400 Lanarkshire members. Agree regarding your comments on air bourne viruses, but all we can do is try to provide the best possible for all members.

cheers

Gareth

[walterboswell59]

gareth i agree with the points both you and jim have stated but i think after the first two races the fed transpoters would be better supported if they only go one toss per week say from kelso this would allow us to hold eggy hens and other birds that are having to be jumped in to races to get a good toss to catch up and would allow us to bring on our birds for the longer races i hope im wrong but i just dont think at 15 pence a bird we will get the support as we will not get the guys with 50 or 60 birds paying a tenner a toss when they can go with a van for half that when we are trying to win customers we have to be cheeper than every one else to win that custom m8 i would love to use and support our transporter but no way i can afford 30 pounds a week for 3 tosses and lots of the members must be in the same boat whats your thoughts its not as if we dont have the room

[Delboy]

gareth i agree with the points both you and jim have stated but i think after the first two races the fed transpoters would be better supported if they only go one toss per week say from kelso this would allow us to hold eggy hens and other birds that are having to be jumped in to races to get a good toss to catch up and would allow us to bring on our birds for the longer races i hope im wrong but i just dont think at 15 pence a bird we will get the support as we will not get the guys with 50 or 60 birds paying a tenner a toss when they can go with a van for half that when we are trying to win customers we have to be cheeper than every one else to win that custom m8 i would love to use and support our transporter but no way i can afford 30 pounds a week for 3 tosses and lots of the members must be in the same boat whats your thoughts its not as if we dont have the room

 

I agree

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

gareth i agree with the points both you and jim have stated but i think after the first two races the fed transpoters would be better supported if they only go one toss per week say from kelso this would allow us to hold eggy hens and other birds that are having to be jumped in to races to get a good toss to catch up and would allow us to bring on our birds for the longer races i hope im wrong but i just dont think at 15 pence a bird we will get the support as we will not get the guys with 50 or 60 birds paying a tenner a toss when they can go with a van for half that when we are trying to win customers we have to be cheeper than every one else to win that custom m8 i would love to use and support our transporter but no way i can afford 30 pounds a week for 3 tosses and lots of the members must be in the same boat whats your thoughts its not as if we dont have the room

Hi Walter. Lanarkshire is no different to any other training van, there has to be a basic price to start of with, now for 3.50 for 20 doos this is as competetive as any other and great for the small tea fancier, after 30 doos it is 1.00 for every 10 pigeons. If you were to send 50 this would then cost you 7.00, and allows you to sit back and see them come home. Perhaps the pricing for larger birdages can be looked at over the coming weeks.

Cheers

Gareth

[walterboswell59]

sorry big fella cant agree with you this time but i hope for the feds sake im wrong i just dont see that deal taking any customers off the vans other than the guys that cant get on one and we will lose the punters it we get canceld a few times the transporter has to be there and let the fancers make there own minds up whether they think the weather forcast is good or not that takes it out your hands cause every time the forcast or the forcaster is wrong which is very offten and they see the vans are going they will be moan

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

sorry big fella cant agree with you this time but i hope for the feds sake im wrong i just dont see that deal taking any customers off the vans other than the guys that cant get on one and we will lose the punters it we get canceld a few times the transporter has to be there and let the fancers make there own minds up whether they think the weather forcast is good or not that takes it out your hands cause every time the forcast or the forcaster is wrong which is very offten and they see the vans are going they will be moan

Agree about the fanciers making there own mind up, therefore unless there is torrential rain forecast then the vehicles will go as planned.

 

Transporter is on tomorrow.

[walterboswell59]

Agree about the fanciers making there own mind up, therefore unless there is torrential rain forecast then the vehicles will go as planned.

 

Transporter is on tomorrow.

good idea m8 then its up to them so cant moan