Roundabout System

[geordie1234]

Question to the fanciers who choose to go on the roundabout system.

 

When would you be most likely to separate the cocks and hens after breeding or how many weeks before the first race to they get moved into their own sections?

 

Thanks

[steff30]

Question to the fanciers who choose to go on the roundabout system.

 

When would you be most likely to separate the cocks and hens after breeding or how many weeks before the first race to they get moved into their own sections?

 

Thanks

Geordie I seperate the hens into their section after they have been sitting the 2nd round of eggs for five days, once the hens have been seperated I leave the cocks to sit the eggs until they come off them. Once they cocks come off the eggs i remove the bowl and close one half of the nest box off.Now they are on Roundabout.

[novo10]

leave hens sit 8 days then move them

[BURNMOUTH PAT]

why 8 days novo

[dal2]

Anytime before ten days on second eggs or wing will go quick

[dava]

ive flew roundabout for a long time and ive found that the best performers during the season were kept dry they sat the eggs out till they lifted then split i like them parted a fortnight before the first race they are sent to. the hens def need to be locked up in there hen perches to stop them pairing up or you will be lucky to get 3 weeks out them stop that and youve cracked it imo .but the most important bit is they have got to be healthy or they will won nowt

[tiger]

ive flew roundabout for a long time and ive found that the best performers during the season were kept dry they sat the eggs out till they lifted then split i like them parted a fortnight before the first race they are sent to. the hens def need to be locked up in there hen perches to stop them pairing up or you will be lucky to get 3 weeks out them stop that and youve cracked it imo .but the most important bit is they have got to be healthy or they will won nowt

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[BURNMOUTH PAT]

An old guy I know says in nationals guys in the east do widowhood and guys on west stay natural.Why is this ?

[dava]

An old guy I know says in nationals guys in the east do widowhood and guys on west stay natural.Why is this ?

ask the old guy that told you im sure he must have the answer

[BURNMOUTH PAT]

i obviously asked him why but he said he couldnt understand it !!

[novo10]

why 8 days novo

stop them going into moult

[Guest Owen]

I would rather do widowhood with cocks well than mess about with roundabout and do it badly. The way I see it you need two hours am with cocks and hens and 30 minutes with youngsters. If you do the same again in the evening we are talking about at least 5 hours a day, 6 if you spend an hour with the youngsters. I would not do that because I want to have an interesting hobby but not slavery.

I fly against a lot a Fanciers who are into roundabout but not many of them win much. I reckon that the only way you have a chance of coping with the wieght of work would be if there is more than one person involved. I have been told that I waste my hens but I do not agree. My hens are tested as youngsters and the ones bred from my best cocks coupled with their young bird results helps me to select the best ones to keep for breeding. Obviously I always have more hens than cocks so this helps me to be very selective and only the best are retained. Still, all roads lead to Rome and people make their own minds up on matters like this.

[geordie1234]

I can see were your coming from Owen having a young family spending 6 hours a day isnt fair on my daughter imo the problem for me just racing cock this season is i have 18 cocks to race and with some of the racing were having I could be out the game early doors.

[john cumming]

everyone to their own whats i say

 

my birds have been on roundabout for 6 or 7 years now as i find it easiest as i work away for 5 to 6 months of the year and it suits my sister & son as its easy to follow and simple straight forward and it has worked well for me, i let my birds raise one youngster then remove the 2nd round eggs after 5 days or so when they are starting to sit tight and split the birds and thats them on roundabout until 2 days before the longest club race and i let them have another youngster, tweek the roundabout system to suit yourself

 

 

 

john

 

 

 

 

[BLACK W F]

ask robbiedoo he flys it and boy he flys out his skin wi hens

[Guest stb-]

particularly hear i dont fly widowhood although i have in the past

but very difficult to get any form on them as the weather here along the hills is notoriously wet , no point in putting widow hood cocks out to sit in drizzly misty rain , if you get 2 or 3 dry days a week your doing well and the atmothsphere is very damp even during summer . for this reason i prefer natural as they can do with sittin in for a few days then giving them a 50 mile toos to keep em fit , widowhood cocks need more routine

and being locked in and chopping and changing dont do :emoticon-0167-beer:

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

particularly hear i dont fly widowhood although i have in the past

but very difficult to get any form on them as the weather here along the hills is notoriously wet , no point in putting widow hood cocks out to sit in drizzly misty rain , if you get 2 or 3 dry days a week your doing well and the atmothsphere is very damp even during summer . for this reason i prefer natural as they can do with sittin in for a few days then giving them a 50 mile toos to keep em fit , widowhood cocks need more routine

and being locked in and chopping and changing dont do :emoticon-0167-beer:

 

Get yersel some loft heaters Rab

[tonythetree]

I would rather do widowhood with cocks well than mess about with roundabout and do it badly. The way I see it you need two hours am with cocks and hens and 30 minutes with youngsters. If you do the same again in the evening we are talking about at least 5 hours a day, 6 if you spend an hour with the youngsters. I would not do that because I want to have an interesting hobby but not slavery.

I fly against a lot a Fanciers who are into roundabout but not many of them win much. I reckon that the only way you have a chance of coping with the wieght of work would be if there is more than one person involved. I have been told that I waste my hens but I do not agree. My hens are tested as youngsters and the ones bred from my best cocks coupled with their young bird results helps me to select the best ones to keep for breeding. Obviously I always have more hens than cocks so this helps me to be very selective and only the best are retained. Still, all roads lead to Rome and people make their own minds up on matters like this.

Hi Owen can you tell me what method you use for selecting the young hens for breeding? The obvious answer is the ones that win races. I read somewhere some rate there birds results as a percentage. If a bird consistantly gets the top 10% club / fed I'd be interested in your thoughts

Tony

[Guest Owen]

Hi Tony

due to the fact that I do not race hens after they are youngsters I always have plenty of nice ones to choose from. I like to select young hens that win because I want early maturing birds that win as sprinters. I wouldn't dream of using an unraced hen to breed from these days although I did when I first started out. My ideal hen is a winner of more than one race bred from a Fed winning father. Needless to say I don't have many of them but those I do have usually give me a good percentage of the birds I am looking for. The other type of hen I like is the mother of winning cocks. My ideal is the hen that has bred winners with more than one cock. If I wanted to start again from scratch I would buy birds from an entire clearance sale and select mothers of winners and use them in a Bull System by pairing them to a performance cock. By doing this you can almost guarantee winners in the first year providing you can manage them properly.

[tonythetree]

Hi Tony

due to the fact that I do not race hens after they are youngsters I always have plenty of nice ones to choose from. I like to select young hens that win because I want early maturing birds that win as sprinters. I wouldn't dream of using an unraced hen to breed from these days although I did when I first started out. My ideal hen is a winner of more than one race bred from a Fed winning father. Needless to say I don't have many of them but those I do have usually give me a good percentage of the birds I am looking for. The other type of hen I like is the mother of winning cocks. My ideal is the hen that has bred winners with more than one cock. If I wanted to start again from scratch I would buy birds from an entire clearance sale and select mothers of winners and use them in a Bull System by pairing them to a performance cock. By doing this you can almost guarantee winners in the first year providing you can manage them properly.

 

 

Interesting stuff thanks for that informative as usual.

Tony