Hitman

[geordie1234]

Possible return to the ring?????? Would love to see Hatton back in action myself

 

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/boxing/s/1583259_ricky-ii-hitman-hatton-considering-sensational-return-to-the-ring

[dal2]

well the last time I seen him ringside it looked like a return to GREGGS would have been more on his mind!!!!

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

well the last time I seen him ringside it looked like a return to GREGGS would have been more on his mind!!!!

 

 

I think he comes across as a likeable kinnae guy but his lifestyle is perhaps one of the reasons he couldn't stand toe to toe with the likes of Mayweather and Pacman??

[just ask me]

loved the way he fought and in fairness he went looking for the best in his division mayweather is just a class above everyone else hatton was honest but the way he put on weight and took it off again took years off his career he went to the states knew the big fights were over didnt duck and dive like some

 

i really hope he doesent come back as my memories of him are all good ones and ive a feeling he would only be a punching bag for someone

[Roland]

He wore his heart on the sleeve for sure. Over rated and very well handled and managed that's for sure. Won't ever see him fight again in the ring of that I'm sure ... I know, never say never, But of course Witter, though real old now, is still around, and suprisingly won the title last time out, so Hatton will never come back.

Whats the first thing Hatton used to insist on when having an audience? 'No questions regards Witter' then abused the better man. Only way to try and save face eh! Like Calzaghe and Froch when he rather pack up and relinquish the title than fight him ... yet had the balls from afar to insult Froch BUT still wouldn't come to fight!. Something that Froch never did, for he pateintly waited and abided his chance that never came.

Would have thought more of him if Like sibson, and many others that said 'I'm not fighting him.... and TRuth' etc.

Or been hoest and said, 'Well Witter the Hitter is awkward and a class boxer, and If I lost to him, which i doubt, It could well cost me £millions....' Ok that would service as truth and pulled the knowleageable fans on his side. As it is, he has thenm desturbing nights of A. knowing he ducked him big time, B. the better man, and C. though he'd lost he would now wish he'd foughtb him.... But then thinks of the money he earnt and rolls over with a smile on his face and says 'Stuff him, I've got the three wheeler of Del Boy' which he has. lol.

[geordie1234]

He wore his heart on the sleeve for sure. Over rated and very well handled and managed that's for sure. Won't ever see him fight again in the ring of that I'm sure ... I know, never say never, But of course Witter, though real old now, is still around, and suprisingly won the title last time out, so Hatton will never come back.

Whats the first thing Hatton used to insist on when having an audience? 'No questions regards Witter' then abused the better man. Only way to try and save face eh! Like Calzaghe and Froch when he rather pack up and relinquish the title than fight him ... yet had the balls from afar to insult Froch BUT still wouldn't come to fight!. Something that Froch never did, for he pateintly waited and abided his chance that never came.

Would have thought more of him if Like sibson, and many others that said 'I'm not fighting him.... and TRuth' etc.

Or been hoest and said, 'Well Witter the Hitter is awkward and a class boxer, and If I lost to him, which i doubt, It could well cost me £millions....' Ok that would service as truth and pulled the knowleageable fans on his side. As it is, he has thenm desturbing nights of A. knowing he ducked him big time, B. the better man, and C. though he'd lost he would now wish he'd foughtb him.... But then thinks of the money he earnt and rolls over with a smile on his face and says 'Stuff him, I've got the three wheeler of Del Boy' which he has. lol.

 

Aw that's right a forgot you were a Junior Witter fan. Never had the fan base and half the character imo Boxing isn't just what you do in the ring now it's the whole package and imo Hatton had it

[Roland]

Just ask Me, Mayweather pulled out of his fight with Witter. And refused it afterwards a few times. Now I don't doubt for a minute that he didn't think he could beat Witter but knew it would be a long hard fight against a real puncher and could get caught and possibly put away any time. So why risk it? Like We said to Minterand on his deaf ears 'Why fight Hagler? The best you can hope for is a very long hard night and a points win.... Though unlikelywe all thought! Pride went before the fall there too. So who can really blame some for ducking the one that could cost them £millions, and reputation legacy? No one really.

Does Mayweather think the Pac Man would beat him? Of course not, I doubt that very much, Niether do I, but he has too much to chance to lose I guEss. Easier and less precarious fights for good money about than put it all on the line. Who knows after his prison stretch, and Pacs debatable loss.... No, I think it mighjt be his swan song and then only when he is more certain to win. After all niether need the other to make money! But pride etc. ...

[just ask me]

in fairness he split with frank warren as frank was ducking and diving all the big fights that hatton wanted it was not too long after the split that ricky got the fights he wanted frank warren then went on to try ruin hattons career with vicious rumors and more there not a whole lot frank could do to ricky in the states as hes not looked on as a serious promoter over there by a lot of people

 

amir knah has realized this too and gone to golden boy promotions where hes fighting a half decent sort in danny garica

 

also its not well known but his last loss to lamont peterson was suppose to be a rematch but that fighter has tested positive for steroids

 

another reason why mayweather wants more and more drug tests before and after the fight as he knows as well as most that its common in the sport and i think mayweather is 100% right the more tests the better to try keep the sport clean

[just ask me]

Just ask Me, Mayweather pulled out of his fight with Witter. And refused it afterwards a few times. Now I don't doubt for a minute that he didn't think he could beat Witter but knew it would be a long hard fight against a real puncher and could get caught and possibly put away any time. So why risk it? Like We said to Minterand on his deaf ears 'Why fight Hagler? The best you can hope for is a very long hard night and a points win.... Though unlikelywe all thought! Pride went before the fall there too. So who can really blame some for ducking the one that could cost them £millions, and reputation legacy? No one really.

Does Mayweather think the Pac Man would beat him? Of course not, I doubt that very much, Niether do I, but he has too much to chance to lose I guEss. Easier and less precarious fights for good money about than put it all on the line. Who knows after his prison stretch, and Pacs debatable loss.... No, I think it mighjt be his swan song and then only when he is more certain to win. After all niether need the other to make money! But pride etc. ...

 

 

pacman last fight did him no good at all losing well pacman would not take the apporite drug tests that mayweather has in all his contracts with all his fights and with drugs rife in the sport i agree with him

[just ask me]

pacman last fight did him no good at all losing well pacman would not take the apporite drug tests that mayweather has in all his contracts with all his fights and with drugs rife in the sport i agree with him

 

 

 

he did not refuse he moved up weights to get bigger money fights in the states witter is not a massive name in the states we all know its about the money with mayweather so he took the money in fairness we went on to fight oscar de la hoya so i dont think it could be said he took the easier option he took the money option which he is all about

[Roland]

Aw that's right a forgot you were a Junior Witter fan. Never had the fan base and half the character imo Boxing isn't just what you do in the ring now it's the whole package and imo Hatton had it

 

true, Witters whole make up and frustration of being a guy no one liked worked greatly against him. very true, but that doesn't deflect from the point he was classes above Hatton, which Hatton well knew of course. What got up my nose was the fact that A. witter offered to fight him for nother and Hatton have all the purse, or his purse be donated to charity of Hatton's wish. But Hatton side stepped that to abuse, or make up flimsy, silly excuses. Like Dempsey who had a answer for not fight any one with breathe left in them... even excuses like 'He treats his wife bad' My son - in - law went Las Vegas, etc. and many other times with Hatton, and his fights etc. Thinkst the sun shines from his back side.... But has said to Hatton 'You mustn't bad mouth Witter.... etc. And Hatton hadn't ever got a realistic excuse for not fighting him. Best was the ludicriss statement he put out 'That he didn't think Witter deserved it, him making money off him fighting him'! Struth Hatton didn't need to fight Witter to make money, that was the very bottom line. Also Witter, unlike Eubank, a realy unheard of and not like fight for his first 16 wins, could change, or invent an image. If one doesn't fit into the media's way of thinking, then you have a very tough and long road to pound.

possibly the best scenario one can think of is the Henry Cooper and his love of the british people. Far better and more deserving fighters were underrated via the media, and 'Our Henry' was heralded and built up wonderfully via the media. Others , well... So give Hatton his due, and no more. He earnt his money, wore his heart on his sleeve and was Public's pin up boy. THAT should never have been at the detremental expulsion of a better fighter, namely Witter.

[just ask me]

the states is the place to be if your not prepared to go over and fight a few fights you have to prepared to go over and fight a few fights before you get your chance at mayweather or any of the real big names so that the american people will fork out there cash for pay per view unfortantly fights are now made most of the time on how much money they can generate witter really never put in the work over there i think only fighting maybe once or twice he spent his time going around the uk fighting in halls etc

[Roland]

Very true J.A.M. But then aren't we saying that being 'Slaves to Money' is the all and end all! Be that true, and of course it is. But that is certainly no excuse to demean and try to belittle your betters to save face. Especially when the reason isn't because of gate / crowds or money!

Money talks, and everyone thinks -- or rather many think - that promotors are the crooks in this game. Though of course none ever seem to be prosecuted. That managers and match makers are blameless. Struth they are a dispicable lot to say the least.

We see ever so often often terrible mis - matches. Bums to make others look good to sell tickets. Yet seldom do public outcry, and even less do the 'Powers to be' take any action. Yes sometime when they think the public eserved better and one boxer could HAVE done better! Besides they simply isn't any excuse for it. certainly not arranged to entertain the public and to put a good how on. Two journey men can do that for them Niether going to get hurt, they can pull 'Strength of Punches and go hell for leather for the full rounds. No one ever knows, nor care, but these 'Bouts' are talked about forever. But we seldom if ever here public out cries on that score. Some of the under cards on 'Big Nights' are a disgrace. So very often too are the main liners.

It is a tough sport, and no one can begrudge any fighter, or their' manager nipping and tucking here and there in the interests of their, and looking after their' fighters, after all that is their' job and what they take a percntage of the money that they earn for. Quite rightly too.

But seldom if ever is it neccessary to belittle, or even cast aspertion or down right lie, etc. on behalf of the one ducking someone to save face and their' pride.

there was a time when one had to fight their' way to the top. Where and when also mandatory opponenets were picked and bouts made and became open to purse bids. This somewhat ensure the welfare and good name of the game. Mind it was in the time before big money and when the Authorities held some sway. Even had some power and demed to bow to public voices.

[just ask me]

roland i dont think i tried to belittle anyone i just gave my opinion on the way hatton left a promoter to get the big fights in which the same promoter wrote some bad stuff in the red tops newspapers to try discredit hattons reputation all of which is true if the storys were true or false it makes no difference as the whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth warren was just upset because ricky did not sign a new contract after ricky making warren a fortune he then writes crap in the papers not right in my book

 

hatton in fairness went to the states fought his way up to fight the best that he could at that time in the world ok he fell short at the final hurdle fighting the best when they were possibly at the top of there game after he left warren he never looked for the easy way out and showed always gave his all at the end of it all he was just outsmarted by the best in the world his record tells it all fighting Castillo Floyd Mayweather Pacquiao Malignaggi to name but a few

 

witter is a very good boxer seen him lots and i love his style tbh but you cant expect to be fighting mayweather etc without building your profile in the states mayweather moved up weights as he had beaten all around him at the weight and the american public wanted more big fights and the only way was up he went on to fight the likes of de la hoya judah mosley gatti and cotto and probally other big names these are the money fights some broke records with pay per view sales i dont think anyone could say he took the easy way out by going up a weight to miss out on the witter fight in the american public witter would not be known by the general population so the pay per view sales just would not be there there was noting for mayweather to gain by fighting witter he probally took 100 times the fight purse by taking on dela hoya i dont think i tried to belittle anyone in any of the posts just stating my opinion is all

 

plenty of promoters have lost there boxing licence warren neally did over another joke of a fight that is on tonight