Beware The Rspb - House Raids

[geordie1234]

Noticed on another site the RSPB have started raiding lofts taking any banned substances or things they cannot identify straight away!!!

[PATTY BHOY]

Do they have the law to enter peoples lofts.

[Guest Dorset-lad]

Do they have the law to enter peoples lofts.

 

and peoples houses and taken there computers aswell

[OLDYELLOW]

DEFRA police the use of prescription drugs , so basically if you've obtained a prescription only medication illegally then they have the right to remove it. They mainly target those that are selling / supplying as it's clearly illegal . Anyway if you only treat for ailments your birds have not much need to keep them as they soon go off , and a good Vet will keep yer birds right

[Roland]

Do they have the law to enter peoples lofts.

 

No. Nor the council. Notice must be given and a Magistrates court order.

But B*ll Sh*t baffles brain and most bear under the preasue... and mostly know no different.

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

IF THEY COME TO MY LOFT I HOPE THEY BRING COUPLE OF SCRAPERS AND SOME BIN BAGS AS IT AINT HAD A GOOG CLEAN FOR 4.OR5.WEEKS.///

[Guest Dorset-lad]

IF THEY COME TO MY LOFT I HOPE THEY BRING COUPLE OF SCRAPERS AND SOME BIN BAGS AS IT AINT HAD A GOOG CLEAN FOR 4.OR5.WEEKS.///

 

like it

[Guest lambrechts31]

IF THEY COME TO MY LOFT I HOPE THEY BRING COUPLE OF SCRAPERS AND SOME BIN BAGS AS IT AINT HAD A GOOG CLEAN FOR 4.OR5.WEEKS.///

:emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[quackie]

is this another ploy to get some press lol they will do anything to get jo public to back them up

 

toss pots the lot of um

[Pompey Mick]

Copied from PigeonChat:

 

"Re: rspb raiding

by bilco » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:34 pm

 

At 08.00 hrs this morning the Law descended on me with a search warrant, together with an RSPCA girl, an RSPB girl and a bloke, an English Nature girl, and Two Constables. They carried a big plastic "Raid Box" into my house and started in opening cupboards, drawers, looking on shelves, etc. Several of them went to inspect the birds and returned saying they were well fed, watered, housed and accommodated. But need scraping out. Somebody tell them, pigeons are renowned for s***ing. They also noted three culls I had placed in a half filled droppings bag. They then bagged up specimens of everything and anything they did not like the look of, Ridzol, Vaccine, Canker cure, Vitamins of all numbers and letters, B1, B2, B3, B12, etc., louse drops, DMG, and so on, two tins of Suanovil 50, bought in a French Pharmacy at €22 each from a French Vet (Nobody tell them we are in the EU ???). All my rockets, my brand new Bownet, unused, for catching magpies (illegal they said), my computer, even my desk phone book with family phone numbers etc in. I heard that they also hit our friend Mo at the same time. Well I didn't think much of the RSPB before, now I detest the slimy ********. They certainly run our UK Gestapo. Heil Hitler! And I thought he was dead.

Just do it, shut up and keep smiling. Bill.

 

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What rights have civilians got when it comes to searching property, I don't think its right RSPCA and RSPB 'officials' can search your property even with PCs present.

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED INTO YOUR HOUSE YOU DONT NO WHAT INFECTION THEY CARRING .///

[billt]

I would guess by the involvement of the RSPB that someone has made a complaint regarding BOP as I can't imagine they would have any interest in the welfare of racing pigeons

[just ask me]

I would guess by the involvement of the RSPB that someone has made a complaint regarding BOP as I can't imagine they would have any interest in the welfare of racing pigeons

 

 

the raids can be for anything medications are hot at the moment and id be pretty sure they keep an eye on here too that why we take down threads or posts its just to stop innocent people having there door banged down

[billt]

the raids can be for anything medications are hot at the moment and id be pretty sure they keep an eye on here too that why we take down threads or posts its just to stop innocent people having there door banged down

RSPCA and Police but RSPB

[just ask me]

you can be sure they all watch here defra rspb and any other number of organisations ive seen several posts off here on falconry sites posts being quoted on sites animal welfare sites etc etc that why the mods remove stuff as quick as possible to protect the members sometimes we get a earful lol but hope people can now see why

[billt]

Yes I agree we need to be careful, especially when mentioning in the bin, I remember a classic on here when a member was saying he was going to bin his birds when they arrived home, the race was still ongoing

[geordie1234]

Would money not be better channelled into the unemployment benifet cheats etc no hold on a minute lets raid a fanciers house lets take him to court at whos cost. feckin joke really bigger problems in the world to be dealt with.

[just ask me]

Would money not be better channelled into the unemployment benifet cheats etc no hold on a minute lets raid a fanciers house lets take him to court at whos cost. feckin joke really bigger problems in the world to be dealt with.

 

 

or even better the people that so many pigeon people help in charity auctions even on here the way people are helping Allissa http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/54184-donations-required-to-help-allissa/page__st__20 so sad really

[billt]

Would money not be better channelled into the unemployment benifet cheats etc no hold on a minute lets raid a fanciers house lets take him to court at whos cost. feckin joke really bigger problems in the world to be dealt with.

 

Yes George it's a funny old world, How many times have we read that the police haven't turned up for a serious incident sometimes hours later and yet they can spare a couple for this, The power of the RSPB me thinks

[just ask me]

Yes George it's a funny old world, How many times have we read that the police haven't turned up for a serious incident sometimes hours later and yet they can spare a couple for this, The power of the RSPB me thinks

 

 

that the problem the rspb and rcpca have a lot more clout than the rpra

[geordie1234]

Read an article on how the rspb managed to stop a multi million pound power station being built because some sort of bird nested there , this was a power station for hudreds of thousand of homes would have created thousands of jobs too! 100's of ppl got moved out there homes in Glasgow to make wae for the commonwealth games and there houses flattened but daft birds keep there tree!!!

 

Were and when will this madness stop the country is being run *expletive removed* to elbow it is a bloody disgrace!!

[Guest darren cantrill]

that the problem the rspb and rcpca have a lot more clout than the rpra

 

thats correct im afraid they have lobbied parliament extensively and have a 15million pound annual fighting fund and within their council ranks are tv presenters journalists solicitors lords and people decorated with MBE'S OBE'S etc etc! and this is only the beginning they dont have to wonder what we are up to now they just come onto the pigeon forums and they can see.they have gone after bill as they work by the old addage cut off the head and the rest of the body shall die bilco is held with high esteem within the racing pigeon fraternity he is outspoken and has gotten under their skin literally what they are attempting to do is undermine him single him out and strike the fear of god into the rest of us before we can expose the real truth that raptors are out of control but we dont do eco studies we have no leading consultants on enviromental issues we have no MPs or lords fighting our cause its very onesided im afraid and as a lobbying group we would struggle to find a council as the rspb will pick them off before they were ever elected they would and will discredit anybody that stands in their way.and it makes me wonder if thats what holds the pigeon sport back.WE KNOW THE TRUTH but at the moment it is just a fire fighting exercise my heart goes out to anybody who is treated how bilco has been treated it is a traumatic experience and i do hope he is ok after this despicable invasion of privacy

[Guest IB]

Sounds to me that the main organisation making the raid was DEFRA. The VLA - part of DEFRA - has the right to enter, inspect and seize illegal veterinary drugs - drugs that are not licensed for use in the UK. Being obtained in an EU Country doesn't guarantee they are licensed for use here. DEFRA / RSPCA are also involved in policing wildlife crime & animal welfare, and their Inspectors have similar powers. RSPB have no powers, and if they were present would be there in an advisory role only.

 

It doesn't help the Fancy when fanciers are caught doing anything illegal. Not only doesn't it help us, it hinders the fight to have the Law changed.

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

RSPB.RULES FOR FOOLS.

[Bilco]

At 08.00 hrs this morning the Law descended on me with a search warrant, together with an RSPCA girl, an RSPB girl and a bloke, an English Nature girl, and Two Constables. They carried a big plastic "Raid Box" into my house and started in opening cupboards, drawers, looking on shelves, etc. Several of them went to inspect the birds and returned saying they were well fed, watered, housed and accommodated. But need scraping out. Somebody tell them, pigeons are renowned for s***ing. They also noted three culls I had placed in a half filled droppings bag. They then bagged up specimens of everything and anything they did not like the look of, Ridzol, Vaccine, Canker cure, Vitamins of all numbers and letters, B1, B2, B3, B12, etc., louse drops, DMG, and so on, two tins of Suanovil 50, bought in a French Pharmacy at €22 each from a French Vet (Nobody tell them we are in the EU ???). All my rockets, my brand new Bownet, unused, for catching magpies (illegal they said), my computer, even my desk phone book with family phone numbers etc in. I heard that they also hit our friend Mo at the same time. Well I didn't think much of the RSPB before, now I detest the slimy ********. They certainly run our UK Gestapo. Heil Hitler! And I thought he was dead.