just absolutely disgraceful

[Guest strapper]

i think we should get the american forces thats over here and lead them down to wotton bassett on the day of the march...im sure 1-2 yanks would like a word of two in their ears like ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

 

spot on lad

 

The goverment done the same at Orgreave  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Orgreave

 

This group don't want democracy they want to manipulate the media and their followers to gain favour and increase membership for their cause

[Guest spin cycle]

 

If you delve into it there ain't such a thing as democracy only manipulation

 

thats true, at the next election if the turnout is 60% and one party can get 40% of that they'll win with effectively only 1 eligible voter in 4 supporting them. even then there seems little difference between them...they say 'change' then behave the same. however pure democracy would be chaos and democracy is also about free speech...  so BWF is right there. although our democracy isn't perfect its perhaps as close as mankind has got thus far JMO

[BLACK W F]

we all know that Duncan but democrecy says its their right to march i did not say i agree with it as i have my own thoughts   ;)

[Guest strapper]

well i FIRMLY believe that when your in someone elses country you abide by their rules  and beliefs.....why do we have to abide by their rules but when they are in our country...they are free to do what ever.

[DOVEScot]

 

thats true, at the next election if the turnout is 60% and one party can get 40% of that they'll win with effectively only 1 eligible voter in 4 supporting them. even then there seems little difference between them...they say 'change' then behave the same. however pure democracy would be chaos and democracy is also about free speech...  so BWF is right there. although our democracy isn't perfect its perhaps as close as mankind has got thus far JMO

 

We have first past the post elections rather than proportional representation and that is the law of the land that allows this to happen. We do have one of the best systems and countries in the world and we are allowed freedom and democracy that only others dream off but it is manipulated and controlled by powers that don't adhere to it

Common people hate wars because our son's and brothers fight and die in it where as the powers gain shares in selling of weapons that fuel it

[DOVEScot]

we all know that Duncan but democrecy says its their right to march i did not say i agree with it as i have my own thoughts   ;)

 

They are not interested in marching they are wanting the attention and the hype that it will bring if it is stopped, to condemn the country and gain support throughout the Asian fanatics.

 

 

[Guest peter.j]

its no surprise people retaliate and attack theses fanatics , men and women have gave the ultimate sacrifice in this and other conflicts then these pseudo terrorists add insult to injury and sully there loved ones memory just shows what a pussy government weve got ,i think its time we the decent people of this once great nation rise up and stop the racist bigots from having there own way yet again its equal rights but far to equal in one direction...peter

[Guest spin cycle]

 

We have first past the post elections rather than proportional representation and that is the law of the land that allows this to happen. We do have one of the best systems and countries in the world and we are allowed freedom and democracy that only others dream off but it is manipulated and controlled by powers that don't adhere to it

Common people hate wars because our son's and brothers fight and die in it where as the powers gain shares in selling of weapons that fuel it

 

i don't know about proportional representation because if we had it the chances are we'd have bnp and islamic extremist mps (amongst others) as to your second part you're right.unfortunatly its allways been that way through history and the only comfort is that its slightly better now than it was. again JMO

[frank-123]

i can see there being blood in compton basset if they go ahead with there march

 

[DOVEScot]

its no surprise people retaliate and attack theses fanatics , men and women have gave the ultimate sacrifice in this and other conflicts then these pseudo terrorists add insult to injury and sully there loved ones memory just shows what a pussy government weve got ,i think its time we the decent people of this once great nation rise up and stop the racist bigots from having there own way yet again its equal rights but far to equal in one direction...peter

 

Catch 22, your dammed if you and your damned if you don't. Let them march and there will be riots in Wiltshire, stop them there will be riots all over the world JMO

[DOVEScot]

 

i don't know about proportional representation because if we had it the chances are we'd have bnp and islamic extremist mps (amongst others) as to your second part you're right.unfortunatly its allways been that way through history and the only comfort is that its slightly better now than it was. again JMO

 

We have them already

 

Yes it is a lot better than what our Fathers and Grand Fathers endured only because of technology  :-/

[billt]

Dovescot, I repect your views on the forum but why would you be a staunch labour supporter, they all go to the same Public schools and make a good living out of talking whilst all us working people are out there earning the money that keeps the country running, we have to put up with them but sod them all

[nogin]

ENOCH POWELL TOLD THIS COUNTRY 40 ODD YEARS AGO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WE ALL LAUGHED AT HIM  :'( :'( :'( :'(

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

When this great country of ours gets full independance we can set laws and make decisions that will stop such things on our streets in the future, just  some of us may not live long enough to see it. however it will come as sure as night follows day.

 

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Duncan it will be free pies for all

[Novice]

ENOCH POWELL TOLD THIS COUNTRY 40 ODD YEARS AGO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WE ALL LAUGHED AT HIM  :'( :'( :'( :'(

 

There is absolutely no doubt that Enoch was a man of great vision.

His "Rivers of Blood Speech" is available on the net for anyone who would like to refresh their memory.  

 

 

[DOVEScot]

Duncan it will be free pies for all

 

As long as they are from a labour controlled bakers union ;D

 

Freedom!!!

 

[harky]

 

There is absolutely no doubt that Enoch was a man of great vision.

His "Rivers of Blood Speech" is available on the net for anyone who would like to refresh their memory.  

 

 

Yes a great speech and very near the truth it sounds if it was just written yesterday

[Guest strapper]

the australian prime minister has the right idea!

 

 

[nogin]

the australian prime minister has the right idea!

 

 

AYE YOUR RIGHT M8  ;D ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

the australian prime minister has the right idea!

 

 

It's a pity the Aborigines did not have the same chances of rejecting all our convicts and strays :-/

[Guest strapper]

heres a response to the march ...

 

Open letter to Mr Choudary and Islam4UK

 

 

Dear Anjem,

 

We have for some time been monitoring statements by your good self re: our troops in Afghanistan etc. Your latest statement about plans to march on a little Wooton Bassett, where our war dead are honoured, is possibly your most heinous idea yet. You mention how hundreds of thousands of innocent Afghani muslims are being 'murdered' by our troops, yet never mention just how many innocent muslims are being killed by the Taliban or by suicide bombers in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

It is a plain, undeniable fact that suicide bombers will never reach paradise, according to your own Holy book.. they will burn in hellfire. Yet you rejoice in this. You obviously despise this Country, you despise our ways, our religious beliefs and our tolerant culture. This is, of course your democratic right. This is Britain, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how disgusted the majority of Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Jews etc may be by you.

 

As a token, an olive branch if you like. We offer to pay all your expenses should you choose to relocate to a country (such as Saudi Arabia) that practices Sharia law. Britain isn't for you, you dont like it here, our western culture disgusts you. A move to Saudi would also raise your standing in the Muslim world, currently there are millions of muslims in Britain who are repulsed by you. There are many people in Britain who believe you denounce Britain and all things British yet are happy to live under its democratic social security comfort blanket, you appear to be a hypocrite to many. By moving to Saudi Arabia you will be proving just how genuine you are about Sharia law.

 

The Koran also states that Muslims should live in peace in a foreign land and respect its customs and cultures (as the vast majority of Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus etc do) but if a muslim is not happy to do this he/she should seek to move to a "muslim" Country.

 

We will be willing to fund your move, and of any other members of your group who are sick of Britain. The only stipulation we would make is that you give up your British passport and your British Citizenship. This shouldn't be any real problem for you as surely every day spent living here must be awful for you. We believe in a multi-cultural society, so long as English culture is always first and foremost. Many of our members are from ethnic backgrounds. Most Muslims in this country believe in Britain, in its values, in its freedoms and in its tolerant attitudes. You do not. That is your Democratic right. But you do not want democratic rights, do you?? Surely taking money from the Social Welfare system of an evil system should be abhorrent to you.

 

Regards,

 

English Defence League

 

This is a genuine offer Andy, should you choose to leave, and to escape the evils of drink and debauchery that we believe you once craved. We will fund the move. Take this opportunity to finally prove your allegiance to the Sharia.. go live the dream.. We would of course appreciate you stating your reasons should you decide NOT to take up this kind offer.

 

[DOVEScot]

heres a response to the march ...

 

Open letter to Mr Choudary and Islam4UK

 

 

Dear Anjem,

 

We have for some time been monitoring statements by your good self re: our troops in Afghanistan etc. Your latest statement about plans to march on a little Wooton Bassett, where our war dead are honoured, is possibly your most heinous idea yet. You mention how hundreds of thousands of innocent Afghani muslims are being 'murdered' by our troops, yet never mention just how many innocent muslims are being killed by the Taliban or by suicide bombers in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

It is a plain, undeniable fact that suicide bombers will never reach paradise, according to your own Holy book.. they will burn in hellfire. Yet you rejoice in this. You obviously despise this Country, you despise our ways, our religious beliefs and our tolerant culture. This is, of course your democratic right. This is Britain, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how disgusted the majority of Christians, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Jews etc may be by you.

 

As a token, an olive branch if you like. We offer to pay all your expenses should you choose to relocate to a country (such as Saudi Arabia) that practices Sharia law. Britain isn't for you, you dont like it here, our western culture disgusts you. A move to Saudi would also raise your standing in the Muslim world, currently there are millions of muslims in Britain who are repulsed by you. There are many people in Britain who believe you denounce Britain and all things British yet are happy to live under its democratic social security comfort blanket, you appear to be a hypocrite to many. By moving to Saudi Arabia you will be proving just how genuine you are about Sharia law.

 

The Koran also states that Muslims should live in peace in a foreign land and respect its customs and cultures (as the vast majority of Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus etc do) but if a muslim is not happy to do this he/she should seek to move to a "muslim" Country.

 

We will be willing to fund your move, and of any other members of your group who are sick of Britain. The only stipulation we would make is that you give up your British passport and your British Citizenship. This shouldn't be any real problem for you as surely every day spent living here must be awful for you. We believe in a multi-cultural society, so long as English culture is always first and foremost. Many of our members are from ethnic backgrounds. Most Muslims in this country believe in Britain, in its values, in its freedoms and in its tolerant attitudes. You do not. That is your Democratic right. But you do not want democratic rights, do you?? Surely taking money from the Social Welfare system of an evil system should be abhorrent to you.

 

Regards,

 

English Defence League

 

This is a genuine offer Andy, should you choose to leave, and to escape the evils of drink and debauchery that we believe you once craved. We will fund the move. Take this opportunity to finally prove your allegiance to the Sharia.. go live the dream.. We would of course appreciate you stating your reasons should you decide NOT to take up this kind offer.

 

Perfect

[Guest strapper]

heres the link

 

http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/100103-Open-letter-to-Anjem-Choudary-islam4uk-.html