PIGEONJIMI Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 There is a green thorny bush in my garden, it is full of orange berries, I'm told its a Pyracantha, everyday the wood pigeons risk life & limb to eat these berries, just wondered do you think it safe to feed to my birds (sparingly) ? has anyone had similar experience ?
OLDYELLOW Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 If wood pigeons are eating them then should be safe for your birds as you say in small amounts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyracantha
alex young Posted September 25, 2011 Report Posted September 25, 2011 There is a green thorny bush in my garden, it is full of orange berries, I'm told its a Pyracantha, everyday the wood pigeons risk life & limb to eat these berries, just wondered do you think it safe to feed to my birds (sparingly) ? has anyone had similar experience ?Had two bushes in my garden some time ago and I fed the berries to the pigeons which they loved,but the birds caught a bacterial infection which I put down to the berries as the wild birds would peck at them and also some of the berries tend to be a bit mouldy.This was some years ago and it was cleared up by Nifuramycin off the vet.I also got rid of the bushes.
PIGEONJIMI Posted September 25, 2011 Author Report Posted September 25, 2011 Im in two minds now , probably give it a miss just to be on the safe side,I would imagine a Domestic Pigeon is more at risk from a bacterial infection, due to the reduction of its natural immune system, through the use of antibiotics and the like, but thats another topic in itself, thanks for the input guys.
just ask me Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 never even heard of these before do many use them
billt Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 never even heard of these before do many use them Mine help themselves and to cotoneaster berries that are very similar, They seem to do this after they have been fed
billt Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Can anyone identify these??? That looks like Cotoneaster to me John, My birds love it, so do Blackbirds and Thrushes
geordie1234 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 Can anyone identify these???Dangle berries lol
JohnQuinn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 That looks like Cotoneaster to me John, My birds love it, so do Blackbirds and Thrushes The bush is down the old Ravenscraig site where i walk Max, think the Deer are into them too as i have spooked them a couple of times where the bushes are.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 The bush is down the old Ravenscraig site where i walk Max, think the Deer are into them too as i have spooked them a couple of times where the bushes are. a misread that there for a second,I thought ye said ye spoke tae them where the bushes are.I need tae go tae ma bed
billt Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 a misread that there for a second,I thought ye said ye spoke tae them where the bushes are.I need tae go tae ma bed
Guest IB Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 This is from an earlier thread:- Table 1. Plants Toxic to Birds Toxic Plant Toxic part(s) Specific Toxin(s) Symptoms Avocado (Persea americana) Pit, leaves, unripe fruit, stems Unknown but related to cardiac toxicity Weakness, inability to perch, labored breathing, feather fluffing Black locust (Robina pseudoacacia) Bark, leaves, seeds Robitin, robin Vomiting, diarrhea, weakness, depression, collapse Blue-green algae (Microcystis aeruginosa) All parts Anatoxin A, mycrocystin Inability to swim or fly, abnormal posture, frequent defecation, respiratory arrest Calla lily (Zantedeschia aethiopiea) All parts Oxalates Oral irritation, difficulty swallowing, vomiting Castor bean (Ricinus communis) All parts Ricin I & II, glycosidase Vomiting, diarrhea (may be bloody) Note: similar symptoms may be seen with ingested prayer beans, rosary peas or Seminole beads used in beadwork and rattles) Christmas cherry (Solanum pseudocapsicum) All parts including tubers and unripened fruit Solanine, atropine-like alkaloids, saponins Vomiting, diarrhea, irregular or rapid heart rate, difficulty swallowing, labored breathng, dilated pupils, no urine production, paralysis, seizures Coffee beans, (Sesbania drumundii), Tea, Chocolate Beans (coffee) Leaves (tea), all chocolates especially dark Caffeine, theobromine, theophylline Nervous system stimulation, increased rate of breathing and heart rate, seizures, diarrhea Diffenbachia (Diffenbachia spp.) All parts Oxalates Oral irritation, difficulty swallowing, vomiting Elephant's ear (Colocasia or Alocasia spp.) All parts Oxalates Oral irritation, difficulty swallowing, vomiting Ergot (Claviceps purpurea) All parts Ergopeptide alkaloids Poor blood supply to extremities, hyperexcitability, seizures Foxglove (Digitalis pupurea) Entire plant, including water from pot or vase Glycosides, digitalis Vomiting, diarrhea, oral irritation, incoordination, irregular heart rate, collapse Jerusalem cherry (Solanum pseudocapsicum) All parts, including tubers, sprouts, and unripe berries Solanine, atropine Vomiting, diarrhea, irregular or rapid heart rate, difficulty swallowing, labored breathng, no urine production, paralysis, seizures Jimsonweed (Datura spp.) All parts, especially seeds and leaves Atropine, scopolamine, hyoscyamine Irregular or rapid heart rate, difficulty swallowing, labored breathng, dilated pupils, no urine production, paralysis, seizures Lily of the valley (Convallaria majalis) All parts Cardiac glycosides: convallatoxin Vomiting, diarrhea, oral irritation, incoordination, irregular heart rate, collapse Locoweed (Astragalus emoryanus) Leaves Swainsonine, alkaloids Hyperexcitability, incoordination, vomiting, drowsiness Milkweed (Asclepias spp.) All parts and latex (milky juice) Cardenoloids (cardiac glycosides) Oral and/or facial blisters, irregular heart rate, incoordination, collapse Mistletoe (Phoradendron villosum) All parts, especially holly berries Viscumin, viscotoxin Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, labored breathing, irregular heart rate, collapse Nightshade (Solanum spp.) All parts Belladonna, atropine-like alkaloids Vomiting, diarrhea, irregular or rapid heart rate, difficulty swallowing, labored breathng, dilated pupils, no urine production, paralysis, seizures Oak (Quercus spp.) All parts Tannins Loss of appetite, diarrhea, increased thirst Oleander (Nerium oleander) All parts Glycosides: oleadrum, neroside Vomiting, diarrhea, oral irritation, incoordination, irregular heart rate, collapse Philodendron (Philodendron scandens) All parts, including roots Oxalates Oral irritation, difficulty swallowing, vomiting Poinsettia (Euphorbia pulcheriama) Leaves, stem, white sap Phorbol esters Vomiting, diarrhea, facial or eye irritation Pokeweed (Phytolacca americana) Roots, leaves, berries Saponin Vomiting, tremors, collapse Potatoes (Solanum tuberosum) Stem, leaves, sprouts, green skins Solanine, atropine-like alkaloids Vomiting, diarrhea, irregular or rapid heart rate, difficulty swallowing, labored breathng, dilated pupils, no urine production, paralysis, seizures Rhododendron (Rhodedendron simsii), Rhododendron species (Azalea) All parts Andromedotoxin, grayanotoxin Vomiting, weakness, collapse, seizure, stupor, coma Tobacco (Nicotiana spp.) All parts Nicotine Vomiting, diarrhea, hyperexcitability, seizures, muscle twitching, coughing, eye irritation Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolio) Berries, leaves Oxalic acid Vomiting, diarrhea (possibly bloody), drowsiness, stupor, renal failure Yew (Taxus media) Wood, bark, seeds, leaves Alkaloids (taxines) Muscle tremors, difficulty breathing, collapse, sudden death Table 2. Plants Safe for Birds Indoor/House Plants Outdoor Plants African violet American bittersweet Aloe Autumn olive Areca palm Bamboo Australian laurel Barberry Bamboo palm Bayberry Begonias American or European Beech Bird's nest fern Bladdernut Boston fern Blueberry Bottle brush fern Comfrey Canary Island palm Coralberry Christmas cactus Cotoneaster firethorn Coffee tree Crabapple Corn plant Dogwood Creeping fig Common, European or Red Elderberry Danish ivy Balsam, Douglas, Subalpine or White Fir Devil's ivy Grape vine Dragon tree Huckleberry European fan palm Marigold Fiddle leaf fig Nasturtium Fig tree Ponderosa, Spruce, Virginia, or White Pine Flame nettle Pyracantha Hawaiian scheffler Raspberry Indian laurel Rose Jade plant Snowberry Kangaroo vine Black, Norway, Red, or White Spruce Lace fern Viburnum Lady palm Wax plant Maidenhair fern White poplar Ming fern Willow Mother fern Mother-in-law's tongue Norfolk pine Paradise palm Parlor palm Pepperomia Prayer plant Purple passion Rubber tree Spider plant Umbrella tree Wandering Jew
JohnQuinn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 a misread that there for a second,I thought ye said ye spoke tae them where the bushes are.I need tae go tae ma bed
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