selling birds on this site

[gangster]

id just like too say to everyone we may not all see eye 2 eye on things but this site is brilliant and i think we have a broad spectrum of fanciers on site.......and i say it as i see it  i think vertually all members do help each other out in  different ways , advice..birds..collecting birds..its not always about money...........AND DONT IT FEEL GOOD HELPING SOMEBODY OUT!!!!!!!

[frank-123]

well gangster could you help me out and take that avator off please

[just ask me]

id just like too say to everyone we may not all see eye 2 eye on things but this site is brilliant and i think we have a broad spectrum of fanciers on site.......and i say it as i see it  i think vertually all members do help each other out in  different ways , advice..birds..collecting birds..its not always about money...........AND DONT IT FEEL GOOD HELPING SOMEBODY OUT!!!!!!!

 

fair play to u gangter and this site is brillant have tried to help out one or two when i can too just its something i can see happening down the road a bit its starting to happen allready a little nottin major

[ALF]

well gangster could you help me out and take that avator off please

 

NAW HE CANNAE :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[gangster]

well gangster could you help me out and take that avator off please

 

NO PROBS DONE IT...LOL

[frank-123]

thanks very much

[gangster]

:P :P :P :P

[gangster]

I give you my avatar gangster  ;D

 

WERE YOU GET SPECKS PIC FROM ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest Freebird]

well gangster could you help me out and take that avator off please

What? efter that effort the other night against Romanofs crowd (evil)

Mon the hoops!!!!

[grizzle_hen]

Just to clarify on the costs of running this site, yes it is free for people to use, but the site is not run for free, Richard has to pay for the site in terms of the using the web space as it were and also consider the size of the site, its not just a forum there are many other aspects to the site and it doesn't pay for itself.

 

The issue of selling birds on here is always an issue, especially in terms of who the sellers are and the amount that some birds are sold for, but I think that in the coming months Richard is going to put something in place for sellers in terms of confirming who they are etc (I'll check with him when he comes home from work)  

[Guest strapper]

all that needs to be done is a confirmed address where the seller is to richard ,as long as he is happy that, thats all that counts.any member can contact richard then to confirm he/she is a genuine seller.

if a seller sells more then a fair amount(regularly) then they could in theory pay a bigger amount then say someone selling a few birds.

these fanciers could be charged extra because they would be considered traders and not the ordinary many off the street selling a few birds to cover corn costs etc.

i dont sell birds myself ,but  i think this would be fair and give more to keep this site running better.

 

 

[grizzle_hen]

Thats a good idea, I'll make sure Richard sees it  

[BLACK W F]

i do not think its a problem birds being sold on the site it will give most a chance of getting a good deal at fair prices  and if any one is over the top members will point this out  so better chance of getting good stock  it should be left to members selling to donate  something whats fair

cheers Alan

[DOVEScot]

Just to clarify on the costs of running this site, yes it is free for people to use, but the site is not run for free, Richard has to pay for the site in terms of the using the web space as it were and also consider the size of the site, its not just a forum there are many other aspects to the site and it doesn't pay for itself.

 

 

Is it expensive to run the site?

[grizzle_hen]

I have a rough idea, but you'll have to ask Richard to be sure  

[DOVEScot]

I have a rough idea, but you'll have to ask Richard to be sure  

 

Roughly would be fine

[grizzle_hen]

You still better off asking Richard, its not my place to say how much, and my post of this thread was just in response to those who said that it doesn't cost anything to run this site

[DOVEScot]

You still better off asking Richard, its not my place to say how much, and my post of this thread was just in response to those who said that it doesn't cost anything to run this site

 

Maybe an idea, with over 3000 members on the site a token payment of £1 each to join would more than cover any costs to run the site, or would it have to be more than that, say £2 or £3 pounds each :-/

Instead the big studs I am sure could split the running costs for advertising on the sites along with the other advertisers that are on the side bar :-/

 

[Roland]

I think that as long as the site has a donation all is fine. I believe that novices / new - comers etc. will have to learn like most of us did / do. Hopefully they know the grass is not always green and crap can have a smell of roses to camouflage deceitfulness. But alas alack, this is fundamental, a part and partial part of the game. Indeed of all games and walks of life. Bet your bottom dollar that those conned are either always subjected to be conned, or will never be conned again... Well at least not easierly. Great if they can ask in confidence certain ones they feel the have a rapore, a respect / trust with. Indeed the best thing for any novice is a sound mementos. They can get this on here. For instance sadly a certain flyer will be packing up soon. He will have good pigeons; tried and tested at sensible prices... an others  good deals will undoubtedly follow.

For another instance there are two fanciers on here that I don't, personally, have a lot of time for... but would recommend their’ birds.

[DOVEScot]

I think that as long as the site has a donation all is fine. I believe that novices / new - comers etc. will have to learn like most of us did / do. Hopefully they know the grass is not always green and crap can have a smell of roses to camouflage deceitfulness. But alas alack, this is fundamental, a part and partial part of the game. Indeed of all games and walks of life. Bet your bottom dollar that those conned are either always subjected to be conned, or will never be conned again... Well at least not easierly. Great if they can ask in confidence certain ones they feel the have a rapore, a respect / trust with. Indeed the best thing for any novice is a sound mementos. They can get this on here. For instance sadly a certain flyer will be packing up soon. He will have good pigeons; tried and tested at sensible prices... an others  good deals will undoubtedly follow.

For another instance there are two fanciers on here that I don't, personally, have a lot of time for... but would recommend their’ birds.

 

Yes, it is only the genuine newbes that we have to worry about being ripped off  :-/

[p charlton]

Just to clarify on the costs of running this site, yes it is free for people to use, but the site is not run for free, Richard has to pay for the site in terms of the using the web space as it were and also consider the size of the site, its not just a forum there are many other aspects to the site and it doesn't pay for itself.

 

i own a forum and paid for it ive spent around £100 advertising £60-70 to set up i have 4 sponcers i dont charge them a bean one forum the same as mine charges his sponcers £1000 a year for the runing costs . dont get me wrong the is a lot of hard work that goes into a forum if the owner is making mony from it i have no issues with that but what do the mods get out of it they do most of the work once a forum is up and runing

 

[grizzle_hen]

i own a forum and paid for it ive spent around £100 advertising £60-70 to set up i have 4 sponcers i dont charge them a bean one forum the same as mine charges his sponcers £1000 a year for the runing costs . dont get me wrong the is a lot of hard work that goes into a forum if the owner is making mony from it i have no issues with that but what do the mods get out of it they do most of the work once a forum is up and runing

 

This site is more than a forum, its a whole website so the set up fees etc will be more than for your site maybe, and yes the mods to a lot of work and so does Richard

[p charlton]

 

This site is more than a forum, its a whole website so the set up fees etc will be more than for your site maybe, and yes the mods to a lot of work and so does Richard

it wont cost much more lol the admin on my forum is turning mine into a website as well you could say if the owner is making cash out of it why dont the mods. my forum is a tropical fish forum our main sponcer is the number one importer of the fish he brings in the uk and 2nd in the world now ive not charged him i want him on to get more members people will come on to buy his stuff and use the forum

 

[grizzle_hen]

money isn't being made out of it, any money that comes from the site either goes into running it or goes into the pigeonbasics fund, this whole website is for pigeon fanciers and to benefit them

[DOVEScot]

money isn't being made out of it, any money that comes from the site either goes into running it or goes into the pigeonbasics fund, this whole website is for pigeon fanciers and to benefit them

 

I don't think the issue is that Richard making money out of the site, as long as he is upfront about it, good luck to him or anyone else, but there are are people that defintely do, dealers and studs can come on here and sell their wares and only one that I know off "S Swilcox" makes good donations to the site, I am sure there are more.

The issue is to seperate these guys from the normal fancier who sells or gives his excess stock for minimal sums of £30 or less.  :-/