Snfc Transporters

[Delboy]

What was the question BOB, IS THE TRANSPORTER USED BY THE SNFC THE BEST AVAILABLE

[Guest stb-]

What was the question BOB, IS THE TRANSPORTER USED BY THE SNFC THE BEST AVAILABLE

THE ONE WITH THE PERSPEX ROOF I WOULD PROB SAY A BIG NOO BUT THE STYLE OF THE TRANSPORTERS APART FROM THAT I WOULD SAY THERE FINE

 

AS WE GOT GOOD RACING IN THEM IN THE PAST DEL

[JADE]

who is to say what is the best available? just because they are new and have shiny aluminium crates doesnt mean they are "better" personally i am not keen on the aluminium crates and prefer the wicker basket but whether they are "better" i dont know and i would defy anyone to say what is. what like a race did the snrpc have from Reims and almond valley from maidstone?

[Guest stb-]

who is to say what is the best available? just because they are new and have shiny aluminium crates doesnt mean they are "better" personally i am not keen on the aluminium crates and prefer the wicker basket but whether they are "better" i dont know and i would defy anyone to say what is. what like a race did the snrpc have from Reims and almond valley from maidstone?

PERSONNALLY I THINK THE ALUMINIUM CRATES ARE CRAP AND DEFO PREFERED THE WICKER BASKETTS AND SHAVINGS IN THEM, ALSO THE FULLY OPEN SIDED TRANSPOERTER , DONT LIKE THE ONES WITH THE SHUTTERS ON THEM EVEN WITH AIR CONDITIONING

[Delboy]

Im not asking about past or present races, im saying the way the birds are watered is amateurish and not good enough for the best birds in Scotland.

[Rebus]

Im not asking about past or present races, im saying the way the birds are watered is amateurish and not good enough for the best birds in Scotland.

Iwould agree to a point regarding the watering i think all transporters should have a corridor wide enough for the convoyer to fill individual basket drinkers and observe the condition of the birds and certainly would not recomend Geraldy units, we have one and it has been very dissapointing as far as i am concerned.

[lanarkshire lad]

Iwould agree to a point regarding the watering i think all transporters should have a corridor wide enough for the convoyer to fill individual basket drinkers and observe the condition of the birds and certainly would not recomend Geraldy units, we have one and it has been very dissapointing as far as i am concerned.

In what way has it been dissapointing.

[Guest stb-]

IN THE ALUMINIUM CFATES WHEN THE WATER SPILLS THE CARDBOARD PAPER ON THE FLOOR IT GOES ALL SLUSHY AND LAYS THERE IN A PUDDLE IN THE WICKER BASKETTS IT WOULD DRAIN AWAY AND WOULD NOT BE TRAMPED ALL ROUND THE BASKETTS

[Rebus]

In what way has it been dissapointing.

cardboard paper & easybed on the floor of the crates,and the birds are dehydrated from some of the races the birds have access to three drinkers but they only use one for water claiming the other two are needed for feeding. The birds were certainly better condition on return from the races when the transporter was the same as these used by the National at the moment.

[Guest bigda]

cardboard paper & easybed on the floor of the crates,and the birds are dehydrated from some of the races the birds have access to three drinkers but they only use one for water claiming the other two are needed for feeding. The birds were certainly better condition on return from the races when the transporter was the same as these used by the National at the moment.

 

 

and what happen when they sh-ite in the three drinkers are they all washed out before feeding is put in

[Novice]

Last year I had a poor race from Newbury and felt the birds were dehydrated. At this race I felt the combination of the prevailing weather conditions and perspex roof had done the birds no good whatsoever.

In a different scenario the transporter may have been adequate.

In answer to the question I would suggest thet they are not the best available.

Now a personal point ----I really cringe when I see the amount of grant money the fancy has wasted buying ETS which is for the convenience of the fancier when this would have been better spent on buying better transportation with the welfare of the birds in mind.

Given the obstacles they now face they deserve the best.

[lanarkshire lad]

cardboard paper & easybed on the floor of the crates,and the birds are dehydrated from some of the races the birds have access to three drinkers but they only use one for water claiming the other two are needed for feeding. The birds were certainly better condition on return from the races when the transporter was the same as these used by the National at the moment.

Fair comment ive always been in favour of the wicker baskets with shavings,for me you canny beat them.The only thing problem ive got is i dont think theres enough slots in the baskets for the doos to get to the water.

[Rebus]

and what happen when they sh-ite in the three drinkers are they all washed out before feeding is put in

YOU NEED TO ASK THE CONVOYER THAT ONE.

[Guest IB]

How do we know what is the best transport available?

 

Lets start with the basic kit, the wicker basket. Like most of you, I've worked with these, and shavings. The dust off them is phenomenal. And the basket bottom isn't sealed, it's open-weave hessian, so any water spillage, and the dust off the shavings and the birds themselves 'drains' into the baskets below. My Fed have some new wicker baskets. The only thing going for them in my opinion is that they are fitted with a solid bottom. At least it protects the birds in the basket below.

 

I also remember reading about a North Road race Les Parkinson arranged from up here in Scotland for YBs, around 2000/01. I think Geraldy's were fairly uncommon then, but it was a Geraldy provided for this race. 300+ miles for YBs. Transported in (then) state of the art transporters. But they still managed to lose the whole convoy. Nothing timed in race time, and nothing back. So even with the best transport available at the time they still had a disaster of a race.

 

So if we don't have the best transport, the people looking after the pigeons' welfare must be doing all the right things because SNFC has never lost a whole convoy.

[Delboy]

Last year I had a poor race from Newbury and felt the birds were dehydrated. At this race I felt the combination of the prevailing weather conditions and perspex roof had done the birds no good whatsoever.

In a different scenario the transporter may have been adequate.

In answer to the question I would suggest thet they are not the best available.

Now a personal point ----I really cringe when I see the amount of grant money the fancy has wasted buying ETS which is for the convenience of the fancier when this would have been better spent on buying better transportation with the welfare of the birds in mind.

Given the obstacles they now face they deserve the best.

 

 

Thank you for answering the question

[Delboy]

I Would agree to a point regarding the watering i think all transporters should have a corridor wide enough for the convoyer to fill individual basket drinkers and observe the condition of the birds and certainly would not recommend Geraldy units, we have one and it has been very disappointing as far as i am concerned.

 

Thank you for answering the question. Kenny Young built these transporters and a very good job he made of them but, they were designed so that a hydraulic lift extended one side of the frame out so the baskets could be serviced with drinkers from the corridor. THIS HYDRAULIC SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN FITTED,( this was costing £2000 ) so the convoyer has to pull all the baskets out on one side so he can enter the corridor with water. Then he pushes the baskets back in ( WITH DRINKERS FULL )because it could start raining. He has to do this at least 3 times a day and also for feeding them. What alot of work the convoyers have to do and hats off to them for this but I think life could be made alot easier for these hard working guys. A geraldy or something specially built to the Nationals spec would surely be the way forward.May I say once again, Im not having a go at any of the convoyers as I think they are asked to do TOO MUCH WORK.

[Rebus]

Thank you for answering the question. Kenny Young built these transporters and a very good job he made of them but, they were designed so that a hydraulic lift extended one side of the frame out so the baskets could be serviced with drinkers from the corridor. THIS HYDRAULIC SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN FITTED,( this was costing £2000 ) so the convoyer has to pull all the baskets out on one side so he can enter the corridor with water. Then he pushes the baskets back in ( WITH DRINKERS FULL )because it could start raining. He has to do this at least 3 times a day and also for feeding them. What alot of work the convoyers have to do and hats off to them for this but I think life could be made alot easier for these hard working guys. A geraldy or something specially built to the Nationals spec would surely be the way forward.May I say once again, Im not having a go at any of the convoyers as I think they are asked to do TOO MUCH WORK.

yes the same as the North West Fed. transporter one side sits on tracks and can be moved out by a hydraulic ram, i have been to see it and thought it first class and with wicker baskets i would be happy to see the National with something like this

[thunderbigbaws]

if mick mcmurchie had got a good one out of bovington would he still have complained i dont think so and when our pigeons came from bovington they were not dehydrated and our returns were ok so u cant blame the transporter

are you a dafty or just stupid, the bird were gasping for water and some of them were caked in mud. returns good bet you there is still 2000 plus pigeons missing. if mike(who im not a fan of) had a good 1 hes still right in what he is saying. a transporter for pigeons with a perspexs roof, and my birds are in it for this race is bang out of order in this day and age

[Guest stb-]

Thank you for answering the question. Kenny Young built these transporters and a very good job he made of them but, they were designed so that a hydraulic lift extended one side of the frame out so the baskets could be serviced with drinkers from the corridor. THIS HYDRAULIC SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN FITTED,( this was costing £2000 ) so the convoyer has to pull all the baskets out on one side so he can enter the corridor with water. Then he pushes the baskets back in ( WITH DRINKERS FULL )because it could start raining. He has to do this at least 3 times a day and also for feeding them. What alot of work the convoyers have to do and hats off to them for this but I think life could be made alot easier for these hard working guys. A geraldy or something specially built to the Nationals spec would surely be the way forward.May I say once again, Im not having a go at any of the convoyers as I think they are asked to do TOO MUCH WORK.

AND HOW CAN £2000 NOT BE PAID TO GET THE HYDRAULIC WORKIN SO THAT THE DOOS CAN GET LOOKED AFTER EASIER AND BETTER , PULLIN BASKETTS IN AND OOT IS NO GOOD TO ANYONE OR THE BIRDS .

[Guest bigda]

what you think of these trailers for our birds

http://www.daviswelding.com/pigeon.home.htm

[Guest bigda]

what about this one and the costhttp://www.daviswelding.com/pigeon.photos.56crate.bumperpull.htm

[Guest stb-]

PREFER THE OPEN ONES DONT LIKE THEY ONES WAY THE ROLLER SHUTTERS ON THEM ,

[Guest bigda]

this one as a extra

[Guest stb-]

this one as a extra

WOULD LOOK SMASHING WITH A SET OF NEW WICKER BASKETS IN THEM

[Guest bigda]

WOULD LOOK SMASHING WITH A SET OF NEW WICKER BASKETS IN THEM