Crow Attacking And Killing Pigeons

[DOVEScot]

Just when you think you have the hawks at bay Chick found a crow on top of one of our birds in the front garden, we used to think it was good to have them around as they mobbed the hawks, not any more

[just ask me]

just wondering did a sparrow hawk kill it and was eating it then the crows came in and frightened off the hawk then started eating the bird

[OLDYELLOW]

im thinking same hawks killed it and crows fought hawk of fer its kill , gutted for yas Duncan

[DOVEScot]

just wondering did a sparrow hawk kill it and was eating it then the crows came in and frightened off the hawk then started eating the bird

 

I have thought that but it was one single crow on the bird, I thought it would take more that one just to scare a hawk away

We will never know for sure but it is all eyes ETC on the crows meantime

[DOVEScot]

im thinking same hawks killed it and crows fought hawk of fer its kill , gutted for yas Duncan

 

It's been a bad year for the hawks Mark and now this, Chick is really upset and feels like packing it all in

[THE FIFER]

no m8 carrion crows are worse than hawks, I had to close up my lofts for them one year, hawks kill to feed,crows just kill if you are in their territory,

[THE FIFER]

if its a hawk it will have marks on its body, if a crow its head will probably be off as thats where crows gat then round the neck, any other part of the body is too big for them to get hold off, also they seem to eat the gullet first, hawks go for the fat flesh,

[Roundo]

Yesterday while in the back garden I witnessed two crow's catch, kill & eat a young starling.

At first I thought it was a BOP that had caught it, by the time I ran round to see, the two crow's had killed the young starling and had already started to strip it, all in a matter of minutes.

I couldn't believe it

[DOVEScot]

no m8 carrion crows are worse than hawks, I had to close up my lofts for them one year, hawks kill to feed,crows just kill if you are in their territory,

Well their territory is shrinking back a bit

[DOVEScot]

Yesterday while in the back garden I witnessed two crow's catch, kill & eat a young starling.

At first I thought it was a BOP that had caught it, by the time I ran round to see, the two crow's had killed the young starling and had already started to strip it, all in a matter of minutes.

I couldn't believe it

We have to watch our bantam chicks till they get up a bit but this is the first time thet have bothered let kill one of our birds

[john cumming]

its an all to familiar scene up here in morayshire, watch crows scaring the young starlings sparrows etc that are learning to fly out of hedges then attack kill & eat them, had a crow come into my loft a few years back & attacked one of my youngsters and he would wait on a post until the loft was open, i got him in the end but they are clever birds and are prepaired to bide their time to get their prey as it were?? also watch the seagulls taking smaller birds out of the sky & eating them?? and ive not mentiond the dreaded B.O.P s yet

[DOVEScot]

its an all to familiar scene up here in morayshire, watch crows scaring the young starlings sparrows etc that are learning to fly out of hedges then attack kill & eat them, had a crow come into my loft a few years back & attacked one of my youngsters and he would wait on a post until the loft was open, i got him in the end but they are clever birds and are prepaired to bide their time to get their prey as it were?? also watch the seagulls taking smaller birds out of the sky & eating them?? and ive not mentiond the dreaded B.O.P s yet

 

That is one thing I am thankful for is I don't get any gulls around but I know Valiant from Edinburgh is plagued by them and magpies, you sit in front of his loft and the roofs around their are covered with them

[sapper756]

Carrion crows are very very crafty, they will sit close to your birds for a long time, and allow your birds to get use to them and become complacent, then out of the blue ATTACK, they usually take the head off, and then split the crop, to gain access to any food.

 

I have witnessed this first hand a few years ago at fifers lofthttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif they even dared to enter the loft and lift squabs out of the nestshttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif

[Peckedhen]

It's been a bad year for the hawks Mark and now this, Chick is really upset and feels like packing it all in

 

I know just how she feels. I've had to bring my one and only remaining garden fantail into the loft. Do you still have them out in the dovecote?

[DOVEScot]

Carrion crows are very very crafty, they will sit close to your birds for a long time, and allow your birds to get use to them and become complacent, then out of the blue ATTACK, they usually take the head off, and then split the crop, to gain access to any food.

 

I have witnessed this first hand a few years ago at fifers loft they even dared to enter the loft and lift squabs out of the nests

 

That sounds about right the crop seed was all around the carcase and the head is missing, I still wouldn't rule out a first kill by a hawk but the crow is going to be relocated just in case

[sapper756]

That sounds about right the crop seed was all around the carcase and the head is missing, I still wouldn't rule out a first kill by a hawk but the crow is going to be relocated just in case

 

 

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[Roland]

Know of many cases of Crows attacking and eating youngsters. Was just talking to barry Andrews last week who related how he had company and was watching the youngsters picking around the garden when a crow caught one and took it upto the roof top and devoured it. As I have often posted several times, about a certain Bill Butterfield - former C.Y President - that encouraged them folishingly thinking that they would keep the b.o.p. Etc. away. Well they clean out nigh all his youngsters one year. Hawks will kill and eat crows etc. when they wish to. I can't for the life of me understand how one can possibly evisage a crow chasing of a hungry hawk off it's kill.

The crow family are on the hawks menu!

[shotgun tim]

at least there not protected.get a larson trap and catch them then introduce them to the wheelie bin

[Guest bakes]

at least there not protected.get a larson trap and catch them then introduce them to the wheelie bin

 

or get your self a good air rifle my old gal loves corvids & any other legal air rifle quarry

 

 

as long as you got a secure backstop and pellet dont leave the garden nothink stopping you controlling pests/vermin and the rifle is not over 12ft/lbs as if it is will need f.a.c cert

[JohnQuinn]

Have to say my tolerance levels for anything that wishes to disturb ma does is minimal!! I relocate everything, and i mean everything, 4 legged, furry, flying or scurrying, no time wasting or second thoughts they gotta go

[just ask me]

Carrion crows are very very crafty, they will sit close to your birds for a long time, and allow your birds to get use to them and become complacent, then out of the blue ATTACK, they usually take the head off, and then split the crop, to gain access to any food.

 

I have witnessed this first hand a few years ago at fifers loft they even dared to enter the loft and lift squabs out of the nests

 

 

ive also seen falcons take the head off on the swoop could be either

[Guest mick bowler]

Crows are usually opportunists, they go for the sick, injured or vulnerable. I have never seen them go for a fit healthy bird, they are too slow, but if you get one injured out of sight they will kill and devour. I had one go missing and found it too late, but i prefer to have them around to BOP.

 

Roland is not quite right about crow being on the BOP menu. They are, but they way down the list, they are too much nuisance for BOP, especially sparrowhawks, and crows will put up a show "en-force" to drive them out the area. I have seen them here harassing a Peregrine, with enough space to make an escape if needed. These BOP use stealth in their attacks, and not much around when its being harassed by noisy crows!

 

I'd say either your bird was downed by a BOP 9would like to see pic of its back)or injured itself before the crow attacked. Easily got rid of if they become a nuisance, no guns no traps needed!

[DOVEScot]

Crows are usually opportunists, they go for the sick, injured or vulnerable. I have never seen them go for a fit healthy bird, they are too slow, but if you get one injured out of sight they will kill and devour. I had one go missing and found it too late, but i prefer to have them around to BOP.

 

Roland is not quite right about crow being on the BOP menu. They are, but they way down the list, they are too much nuisance for BOP, especially sparrowhawks, and crows will put up a show "en-force" to drive them out the area. I have seen them here harassing a Peregrine, with enough space to make an escape if needed. These BOP use stealth in their attacks, and not much around when its being harassed by noisy crows!

 

I'd say either your bird was downed by a BOP 9would like to see pic of its back)or injured itself before the crow attacked. Easily got rid of if they become a nuisance, no guns no traps needed!

 

I agree Mick, I have had a few hawk attacks but the injuries are well covered up, I cannot see any punctures on it, the breast or the back is not split so the get to the vital organs as normal with hawk attacks . I would not rule it out as I have seen crows chased off a hawked bird as they don't like the attention

One thing for sure the crows that hang around are being relocated

[Guest stb-]

THERE WAS A COMPOUND WITH 6 OR 7 LOFTS IN KIRKINTILLOCH AND A CROW DONE IN LOADS OF THERE DOOS , AND AS FAR AS IM AWARE WAS SO FLY IT TOOK A YEAR OR 2 TO CATCH IT

[cemetary]

THERE WAS A COMPOUND WITH 6 OR 7 LOFTS IN KIRKINTILLOCH AND A CROW DONE IN LOADS OF THERE DOOS , AND AS FAR AS IM AWARE WAS SO FLY IT TOOK A YEAR OR 2 TO CATCH IT

 

There awe fly fi that wiy,

 

Ave 2 pair owe them around me, no problems wi the doos, keep the hawks and other birds oot the way owe the doos,