How Long Do You Think O/Birds Need To Fly For

[pigeonpete]

Would just like other peoples opinions please, as some people said there cocks fly ann hour morning and an hour at night,

 

does it depend on what distanc they are down to?

 

mine fly for 20 mins morning, and 40 mins at night,

 

do i need to flog them more?

 

any opinions and views would be appreciated. Thanks

[OLDYELLOW]

Would just like other peoples opinions please, as some people said there cocks fly ann hour morning and an hour at night,

 

does it depend on what distanc they are down to?

 

mine fly for 20 mins morning, and 40 mins at night,

 

do i need to flog them more?

 

any opinions and views would be appreciated. Thanks

i find its all down to feeding little tweaks in the feed give different results , id be happy at 45 minutes to an hour for my cocks , my hens well they fly much longer if given too much good food , if flying too long i increase the barley if not enough i may swap the barley for maize or more peas/maples or both ;)i keep straights and mix my own

[pigeonpete]

i find its all down to feeding little tweaks in the feed give different results , id be happy at 45 minutes to an hour for my cocks , my hens well they fly much longer if given too much good food , if flying too long i increase the barley if not enough i may swap the barley for maize or more peas/maples or both ;)i keep straights and mix my own

 

 

45 minutes a day, or 45 mins morning, and 45 night,??

[OLDYELLOW]

45 minutes a day, or 45 mins morning, and 45 night,??

twice a day the problem most wont recognise is this in order to get form you need to have 1st health 2ndly fitness , the presence of down feathers indicates that there coming into form its how to get this stage most novices dont know

[pigeonpete]

twice a day the problem most wont recognise is this in order to get form you need to have 1st health 2ndly fitness , the presence of down feathers indicates that there coming into form its how to get this stage most novices dont know

 

 

i have down feathers galore this week!! nicely sat on the firm droppings, so according to the dvds and books, i will win this week

[OLDYELLOW]

i have down feathers galore this week!! nicely sat on the firm droppings, so according to the dvds and books, i will win this week

only if you set them up right for the job ahead

[Shortcut Lofts]

Mine would do up to 2 hours non stop without interference. so far they have been off the mark. Talking to a guy on Sunday - 2nd NIPA open one week, wins 2 feds from 4 so far, his fly about 10 mins total. He doesnt train either???? I think the pigeons do not need flying too much as long as they are healthy and most importantly SWITCHED ON / MOTIVATED. Everyones are different.

[sapper756]

Would just like other peoples opinions please, as some people said there cocks fly ann hour morning and an hour at night,

 

does it depend on what distanc they are down to?

 

mine fly for 20 mins morning, and 40 mins at night,

 

do i need to flog them more?

 

any opinions and views would be appreciated. Thanks

 

 

FLOG themhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif I would keep them Petehttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

Would just like other peoples opinions please, as some people said there cocks fly ann hour morning and an hour at night,

 

does it depend on what distanc they are down to?

 

mine fly for 20 mins morning, and 40 mins at night,

 

do i need to flog them more?

 

any opinions and views would be appreciated. Thanks

 

Let them fly all day if they want that what they meant to do fly the longer the better keeps them fit

[Guest stb-]

like mine to do hour in morning hour in evening on there own without flaggin them

[dal2]

Mine would do up to 2 hours non stop without interference. so far they have been off the mark. Talking to a guy on Sunday - 2nd NIPA open one week, wins 2 feds from 4 so far, his fly about 10 mins total. He doesnt train either???? I think the pigeons do not need flying too much as long as they are healthy and most importantly SWITCHED ON / MOTIVATED. Everyones are different.

 

My old man would say that they are doin all their flyin at home if 2 hours non stop. Boys in oor clubs that dominate at short distance seem to pay little attention tae exercising roon the loft and prefer tae toss maybe once or twice a week. Others dinny bother at all and leave them to an open hole all day and these fliers usually prosper later in year. Then theres the fanciers like me who go by routine, hour in morn hour at nite. Horsee fur courses maybe?

[JohnQuinn]

The race is won dependant on the fancier doing the right things at the right time, to create an irresistible motivation for the birds who have it in them to win in the first place. As far as flying round for however long the fancier demands, or how long the birds choose to fly for, i believe it has little to NO bearing on race results. jmo

[jimmy white]

Would just like other peoples opinions please, as some people said there cocks fly ann hour morning and an hour at night,

 

does it depend on what distanc they are down to?

 

mine fly for 20 mins morning, and 40 mins at night,

 

do i need to flog them more?

 

any opinions and views would be appreciated. Thanks

 

kinda hard to vote pete, ,, flying an hour am and pm, on the face of it seems ok,, ,, but theres weather to think about , probably wouldnt want them to do an hour in pouring rain,lol

 

i think if your birds are flying 20 mins am,, 40 mins pm,, then doing their up and down antics, should be fine,, sometimes i think its not the time they fly its the way they fly, would rather see them doing 20 mins with gusto, zip lol, than an hour trailing low above the chimneys

 

so would answer in my opinion only

 

 

 

 

[1] not neccessary

[2]seems fine to me,, out an hour am then an hour pm,, flying 20 and then 40 mins, the racing should keep them race fit

[3] dont "flog" them, youll need them for the races lol,, :D only taking micky there pete, but know what your saying,,,flag them lol,, i wouldnt flag them more, the flag can come in handy in certain instances, but would prefer to see them flying with gusto,,on their own,,, but as with pigeons, no define answer, but good luck anyway lol

[pigeonpete]

thanks for the replies and votes, seems im still none the wiser now,

 

I have even considered, not loft flying them, due to hawks, there is a mid week club localish, they only go 60 miles on a wed, would this be any good, ? race sat, race wed, rest of week not much?

 

my birds are coming well, and are really keen, just seem no urgency to trap, maybe the hawks have had that effect on them? they seem to want to fly round for a minute, then sit on trap and have a look round first, then in, and straight to there hen/box!!

 

and im 3/4 mins behind winner first 3 races, hope tommorow they decide to trap faster, 150 miles north east wind!!!

 

get the peanuts out tonight

[OLDYELLOW]

if you want them trapping faster then use some small seeds such as white dari when they enter, the continental fanciers call it candyseeds as tastes sweet to the pigeons they go mad for it i have hawk problems here hen is off nest now so have moved the ybs to evening flying again, i no longer train as worse on route for bops than around loft my view is this they can run back to loft for safety , so better at home never tried not flying them out and no mid week races here so be a new concept to my flying but im sure if shut up too much they arent going to be fit and win as wont be able to keep there muscles up

[BLUERON]

being a newcomer i am geting in amess with the flying and feeding.i only have y/b to fly.i was feeding to much to being with and they would fly for a hour but would sit out for a lot more.so i cut down on the feed and mix it to make it light. so now they only fly for 20mins at the most but come right in.i take them on 6miles toss few times aweek and they seam to be doing ok with that.

[alex young]

thanks for the replies and votes, seems im still none the wiser now,

 

I have even considered, not loft flying them, due to hawks, there is a mid week club localish, they only go 60 miles on a wed, would this be any good, ? race sat, race wed, rest of week not much?

 

my birds are coming well, and are really keen, just seem no urgency to trap, maybe the hawks have had that effect on them? they seem to want to fly round for a minute, then sit on trap and have a look round first, then in, and straight to there hen/box!!

 

and im 3/4 mins behind winner first 3 races, hope tommorow they decide to trap faster, 150 miles north east wind!!!

 

get the peanuts out tonight

Irace my hens wed. and sat. for same reason they have won 4 to date,cocks only 1,they fly well at home but not trained.Sorry about 1st post not used to new format.

[OLDYELLOW]

Irace my hens wed. and sat. for same reason they have won 4 to date,cocks only 1,they fly well at home but not trained.Sorry about 1st post not used to new format.

no problem with your first post well done , no excuses now get posting away well done Alex

[pigeonpete]

no problem with your first post well done , no excuses now get posting away well done Alex

 

 

i deleted the first post made by alex, as was just blank, no probs though mate, soon get hang of it :-)

 

and well done on your results must be working for you :-)

[Guest Owen]

I fly exclusively widowhood so any comments I make are about widowhood cocks. Apart from youngbirds, I would not know how to fly hens if you paid me. My birds are shut in their boxes so I can treat them as individuals. My yearlings will fly for at least two hours morning and night so I have to feed them on a weak mix to try to calm them down. My cocks will do an hour before I call them in. For me it is not about how long they fly, it is more to do with the way that they fly. I want them to go off out of sight and when they come back I want to see them come from differant directions, regroup and charge off again. The last thing I want is birds that fly around the loft at low altitude barely using their wings. I have to admit that the fact that my birds often fly at a great hieght, worries me because they would have no chance if a Peregrine comes around the corner.

Over the years I have learned that showing the hens is garanteed to ruin cocks when it comes to exercise. Once they get the idea that they will find a hen in the loft, they will hang around watching the loft. So my form of widowhood is very like celibacy. And I also agree with the statement that says that, if you do not control the exercise, the birds will fly their race during the week and have nothing left for the weekend.

[tomkirby1]

I HAVE SENT 8 COCKS TO SAT RACE BUT THEY WILL NOT FLY FOR MORE THAN IO MINS SO WILL SEE WHAT THEY RACE LIKE

[wilkins]

I fly exclusively widowhood so any comments I make are about widowhood cocks. Apart from youngbirds, I would not know how to fly hens if you paid me. My birds are shut in their boxes so I can treat them as individuals. My yearlings will fly for at least two hours morning and night so I have to feed them on a weak mix to try to calm them down. My cocks will do an hour before I call them in. For me it is not about how long they fly, it is more to do with the way that they fly. I want them to go off out of sight and when they come back I want to see them come from differant directions, regroup and charge off again. The last thing I want is birds that fly around the loft at low altitude barely using their wings. I have to admit that the fact that my birds often fly at a great hieght, worries me because they would have no chance if a Peregrine comes around the corner.

Over the years I have learned that showing the hens is garanteed to ruin cocks when it comes to exercise. Once they get the idea that they will find a hen in the loft, they will hang around watching the loft. So my form of widowhood is very like celibacy. And I also agree with the statement that says that, if you do not control the exercise, the birds will fly their race during the week and have nothing left for the weekend.

 

owen , you mention showing the hens to much and i agree with you as my cocks only see there hens after training i have not sent to a race yet this year and the day or two after they do not fly as well as the 3rd day onwards which i think is due to seeing the hens , could you be so kind to allow us some tips on race prepartion for your cocks

[holmsidelofts]

kinda hard to vote pete, ,, flying an hour am and pm, on the face of it seems ok,, ,, but theres weather to think about , probably wouldnt want them to do an hour in pouring rain,lol

 

i think if your birds are flying 20 mins am,, 40 mins pm,, then doing their up and down antics, should be fine,, sometimes i think its not the time they fly its the way they fly, would rather see them doing 20 mins with gusto, zip lol, than an hour trailing low above the chimneys

 

For me its not about the length of time they fly but how they fly, its no good have them flying around aimlessly around the loft not giving any effort. When my birds start to come into form i will let them out and they will be gone for 10 minutes or so, you wont see a feather, they will then come hammering past the loft all lined up racing each other, they will be ducking and swerving like youngsters and really clapping hard. For me its all about the effort they put in not the length of time they fly. Flying like i have said for 20 minutes in my opinion is as good as an hour of no effort.

 

Jas.

[blaz]

all my birds are on open bowl yb,s old birds the lot.so i can,t say how long birds fly each day.