DOVEScot Posted April 8, 2007 Report Posted April 8, 2007 Are thes illegal Used for catching all types of birds
shotgun tim Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 yes they are legal for catching covids(crows, magpies etc) i use them on my phesant shoot you must provide a perch and fresh food and water also shelter. you can also use them to catch other pest species!!!!!!!!!!
Flyer Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 i got a home made 1, they catch squirrels aswell. but once you get your first magpie the others are not far behind
Roland Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 A wire cgae with a hole like a 4/5 inch saucepan shape around the entry will entrap any thing nigh and can't fly out... nor climb up and then down and up again! Have heard that a false wire bottom can be place in also about 6/7/8 iches high so it could be baited.
Guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 Are thes illegal Used for catching all types of birds http://www.againstcorvidtraps.co.uk/law.html The Law A brief guide to Larsen Trap legislation In 1996 following concerns that Larsen traps where being used to catch protected birds the general license for Larsen traps was tightened. As a result the license allows the trap to be used for the control of: Crows, Magpies, Rooks, Jackdaws and Jays. Wood pigeons and Sparrows were removed from the legal decoy list. Further amendments were added on the 1st January 2000. There follows a general outline of the main points affecting operation in the field of corvid control. All Larsen trapping operations must be carried out for a purpose. Simply hating Crows for example is not a valid reason. The welfare requirements of the decoy must be taken into account (see report: BASC member guilty). Decoy birds must be provided with food, water, shelter and a perch. As with all traps the Larsen must be checked at least once a day. The check time is generally carried out between the hours of one hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset. The larsen trap is governed by a general license under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. Captured birds provided they fall within the legal quarry list may be dispatched by an approved method. There is no set size to decoy cages. Some manufacturers, in an effort to increase profit by saving on materials, are supplying Larsen traps with decoy compartments less than 18 inches cubed! Please keep an look out for any this small and notify us of their exact location. When not in use Larsen traps MUST be rendered incapable of catching, i.e. no bird can push the trap door open and become caught as a result. Top opening traps can be turned upside down or have the door springs unhooked. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-countryside/vertebrates/licences/WLF100089.pdf WILDLIFE AND COUNTRYSIDE ACT 1981 LICENCE TO ALLOW THE KEEPING OF BIRDS IN CERTAIN CAGE-TRAPS FOR PEST CONTROL PURPOSES The Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, in exercise of the powers conferred on her by section 16(1)©(d) and (k) of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 ("the Act") and after consultation with English Nature and being satisfied that as regards the purpose set out at paragraph 1 that there is no other satisfactory solution, hereby grants the following licence- PURPOSE 1. The purposes of this licence are for conserving wild birds, protecting any collection of wild birds and preventing serious damage to livestock, foodstuffs for livestock, crops, vegetables, fruit, growing timber or fisheries. 2. Subject to the terms and conditions below, this licence permits any authorised person to keep or confine any bird listed below in a Larsen cage-trap, the dimensions of which do not satisfy the requirements of section 8 (1) of the Act. The wild birds that are permitted to be used as decoys under the terms and conditions of this licence are; Crow Corvus corone Jackdaw Corvus monedula Jay Garrulus glandarius Magpie Pica pica Rook Corvus frugilegus TERMS AND CONDITIONS 3. This licence only applies to the killing, injuring in the course of attempting to kill in accordance with this licence, taking, damaging or destroying (as mentioned in paragraph 1 above) by means which are not prohibited by Section 5 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, or the use of a Larsen cage-trap, with the minimum of distress to the birds. 4. Every Larsen cage trap, used under the authority of this licence, shall be inspected by an authorized person on a daily basis when the cage trap is in use except where this is not possible because of severe weather conditions e.g. as a result of heavy snowfall. In such cases, every effort must be made to inspect the cage trap as soon as possible. At each inspection any birds caught in the trap shall be removed from it. 5. Where Larsen cage-traps are left in the open but not in use, they must be rendered incapable of holding or catching birds. 6. The decoy bird must be provided with adequate food, water, shelter and a perch for the entire period during which it is used. The decoy bird must be removed when the trap is not in use. 7. No bird other than a species included in the list at paragraph 2 may be kept or confined in a Larsen cage-trap as a decoy. 8. Any bird not listed above which may become confined in the cage-trap must be released immediately on being found. 9. This licence applies to England and is valid, unless previously revoked, for the period from 1 January 2004 to 31 December 2004. DEFINITIONS 8. In this licence "authorised person" has the same meaning as in Section 27 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. 9. "Larsen cage-trap" means a cage-trap which has a closed compartment for confining a live bird as a decoy and a spring activated trap-door which is either top or side mounted. SARAH JONES Department for Environment Authorised by the Secretary of State Food and Rural Affairs for the Environment to sign in that European Wildlife Division behalf Wildlife Integration and Conservation Branch Room 1/10d Temple Quay House 2 The Square Temple Way Bristol BS1 6EB 1 January 2004 Tel: 0117 372 8903 NOTES 1. Failure to comply with the terms and conditions of this licence may lead to an offence. 2. The Scottish Executive in respect of Scotland and the National Assembly for Wales in respect of Wales have issued a licence in similar terms. 3. Section 8(1) of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 provides that if any person keeps or confines any bird whatever in any cage or receptacle which is not sufficient in height, length or breadth to permit the bird to stretch its wings freely, he shall be guilty of an offence and be liable to a special penalty. 4. Where the action licensed involves the use of firearms, it is the authorised person’s responsibility to ensure that he complies with all relevant legislation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.againstcorvidtraps.co.uk/archive/high_court_ruling.html News High Court rules on suffering of decoy birds The High Court has ruled that Magpies have legal rights. A senior judge declared it is unlawful to allow the birds to suffer unnecessarily if they are used under licence as decoys in traps to catch other magpies. This is often done to with the intention of protecting the eggs and chicks of songbirds. Mr Justice Leveson, sitting in London, allowed an RSPCA appeal against a refusal by Telford magistrates court in April last year to convict a member of the British Association for Shooting and Conservation of causing unnecessary suffering to a magpie kept in a Larsen trap. Norman Shinton set up the trap in the garden of his home at Mendip Close, Little Dawley, Telford, Shropshire. Mr Shinton was accused of causing a single magpie unnecessary suffering as he used the bird over and over again between July 5-10 2000, instead of "rotating" decoys. Mr Justice Leveson said Mr Shinton was authorised as the owner or occupier of land to confine the magpie in a cage trap. There was no doubt that the use of the Larsen trap fell within the terms of the licence, and Telford district judge Philip Browning was right to acquit on that charge. But the district judge had gone wrong in law when he cleared Mr Shinton of causing the bird unnecessary suffering, contrary to the 1911 Protection of Animals Act. The High Court judge ruled that, even though the trap might be lawful, it was "illogical" to say its owner was therefore absolved of all responsibility. The judge said it was unnecessary to send the case back to the magistrates court for it to be reconsidered as the RSPCA had only brought the case to clarify the law. Story filed: 14:36 Monday 30th June 2003
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 dont think they are can my em in farm shops
Roland Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 You can buy Mixamostosis, but it is illegal to put down ... but it goes down every October plus like...
Guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 You can buy Mixamostosis, but it is illegal to put down ... but it goes down every October plus like... wit planet you on rollie
ALF Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 You can buy Mixamostosis, but it is illegal to put down ... but it goes down every October plus like... Roland i think you need some professional help ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
DOVEScot Posted April 9, 2007 Author Report Posted April 9, 2007 They are selling these larsen traps on ebay for £51.00 inc postage if you have bother with crows etc!!!
pigeonpete Posted April 9, 2007 Report Posted April 9, 2007 You can buy Mixamostosis, but it is illegal to put down ... but it goes down every October plus like... how much malt you had roland?? :P ;D
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