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the latest r-com 20(2011) there about &200 to &250 fully automatic temperature, automatic humidity or a king suro 20 £150 but this needs humidity pads the r-com 20 has a water heating system to control humidity. http://www.youtube.com/user/PandTPoultry#p/u/7/J62u_36MxQ8 or if you want it on the cheap just for pigeons make one http://www.rivercottage.net/forum/ask/poultry/14917make-your-own-incubator i found humidity is not important for pigeons mine runs dry at 38%.

http://www.carnyx.tv/CarnyxWild/WildlifeCameras/London.aspx see the London pair have laid

yes its the same temp for both chickens and pigeons

my first thought it might be night time disturbance. all so if your using poison, take the drinkers away at night.

that the way i do it aswell. found this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260520904236&category=46292&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

76 miles took 1 hour 26 mins in a ne wind

do the birds go into the aviery, clocked then into there loft or do they land ON the aviery and clocked then enter the aviery/loft.

started parastop(liquid) 3rd Nov finished 15th Nov followed by 3 days multi vits. paired all birds (17 stock pairs and 16 pairs racers) on the 26th dec. all pairs by the 7th jan had laid. 16th Jan floated stock eggs to race birds. had 2 clear eggs from 2 stock pairs all other eggs where full. racers all full. hatched rate 100%. lost 2 chicks at 6 day old, wrong hen bird in box and killed them (Won't happen again).stock birds 2nd round started laying 26 jan all full all hatched. a week away from weening the 2nd round now. the best breeding season to date whether pre treatment had anything to do with it. must add the birds did have plenty of grit, minerals, fresh veg every day.

Is the last picture with the bob wires after the ets pad. which is within the confines of the loft, complying with RPRA rules.

http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1253035527/s-new/ http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1254143947/s-new/

when is the homing world stud book 2010 released

hows it going jason are the ybs in yet.

its working now

http://demand.five.tv/Episode.aspx?episodeBaseName=C5138900006

??? something about media rights. just try it