bird flu outbreak

[EAGLEOWL]

bird flu out break in norfolk

[REDCHEQHEN]

Is that as well as the one in Suffolk?

[EAGLEOWL]

sorry in case i miss understud what they said ,its the turkeys again

[REDCHEQHEN]

Avian Influenza has been confirmed at a free range turkey farm also with ducks and geese near Diss in Suffolk.  A 3km PZ and a 10km SZ has been introduced.  

 

[pigeonpete]

Avian Influenza has been confirmed at a free range turkey farm also with ducks and geese near Diss in Suffolk.  A 3km PZ and a 10km SZ has been introduced.  

 

oh dear thats not good :-/ any idea what strain?

[REDCHEQHEN]

 

oh dear thats not good :-/ any idea what strain?

 

Only that its H5 but not whether its N1

 

Keep positive - its the closed season

[Roland]

Seems at least 5000, and posiblely 10,000 birds to be culled.... Can't understand for the life of me how it can be either this or that! It is either ALL or Nothing I'd have thought.... unless just eistimating the birdage... and or Heading News or sale topics.

[Guest]

The farming community in that part of SE England must be reeling just now, first F&M, then Bluetongue and now Bird Flu. Must be wondering what next? Restrictions in force must be a nightmare to work thro.

[DOVEScot]

Seems at least 5000, and posiblely 10,000 birds to be culled.... Can't understand for the life of me how it can be either this or that! It is either ALL or Nothing I'd have thought.... unless just eistimating the birdage... and or Heading News or sale topics.

 

Maybe 5,000 in the PZ and 10,000 in the SZ :-/

[Guest]

The precautionary cull only affects Infected Premises in the 3km Zone. ITN News at 6.30pm mentioned 5000, turkeys, geese and ducks on one farm at Redwood, on Norfolk / Suffolk border near Diss.

[Guest]

makes u wonder is it from a lab again ,and they have been having another lack of bio security.

,,its most prob birds flying into this country from eastern europe or summut,i think im right in saying its that time of year again!!!...paul

[Guest]

Well, it was Mr Matthews wot brought it in last time, i.e. poultry trade, and not wild birds. Need to wait and see what comes out in next few days?  :-/

[Guest]

i wonder how many of these birds have already entered the food chain?...paul

[EAGLEOWL]

A second case of the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu has been found in turkeys in a farm on the Norfolk/Suffolk border, the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said.

 

The farm was one of four where culls were taking place because of fears of "dangerous contact" with the initial case at Redgrave Park Farm, discovered last week.

 

All 9,000 turkeys have already been slaughtered at the new infected premises, which is operated by the same company as the site of the first outbreak.

 

The site of the new infection, Hill Meadow Farm, Knettishall, on the Norfolk/Suffolk border, is outside the original 3km protection zone set up around Redgrave Park farm, but inside the wider restricted area which covers Suffolk and much of Norfolk.

 

[Back garden fancier]

The workers from the first farm also work at the farm where the new out break is ! Guess what happend there then!

[EAGLEOWL]

The workers from the first farm also work at the farm where the new out break is ! Guess what happend there then!

 

suprise suprise cilla here

 

my question is which country did the turkey poulets come from  

[Back garden fancier]

What are poulets? Is that pellets or pullets?

[EAGLEOWL]

sorry im thick there goes me french again pullets

[Guest]

I think there might be a bit of confusion here. 5 farms were culled-out as of yesterday, Sunday 18th, that is 1 original outbreak + 4 dangerous contacts.

 

There hasn't been a new AI outbreak, at least not one reported on DEFRA website. I think this report is confirming that the vets suspicions were bang-on when on visiting one of the dangerous contacts, they upped it from 'cull - dangerous contact'  to 'cull - suspicion of disease'.

 

The strain of H5N1 virus is the same one as outbreaks in Czech Republic , Germany & France earlier this year..

 

 

[EAGLEOWL]

Second H5N1 case found in turkeys

Last Updated: Monday, 19 November 2007, 18:12 GMT

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A second bird flu outbreak has been confirmed, Defra saidA second case of the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu has been found in turkeys in a farm on the Norfolk/Suffolk border, the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said.

 

The farm was one of four where culls were taking place because of fears of "dangerous contact" with the initial case at Redgrave Park Farm, discovered last week.

 

All 9,000 turkeys have already been slaughtered at the new infected premises, which is operated by the same company as the site of the first outbreak.

 

The site of the new infection, Hill Meadow Farm, Knettishall, on the Norfolk/Suffolk border, is outside the original 3km protection zone set up around Redgrave Park farm, but inside the wider restricted area which covers Suffolk and much of Norfolk.

 

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The premises were identified as having "dangerous contact" with the initial outbreak last week because staff for Redgrave Poultry, the operator of all five sites where culls have taken place, moved between the farms.

 

Defra said the birds appeared healthy when they were first inspected, but a precautionary cull was completed on Saturday.

 

Acting chief veterinary officer Fred Landeg said: "The laboratory test results highlight the importance of poultry keepers in the area being extremely vigilant.

 

"It is essential they practise the highest levels of biosecurity and report any suspicions of disease to their local animal health office."

 

A new 3km protection zone has been set up around the farm, and an extended surveillance zone which surrounds both sites has also been established

[Guest]

Well that's the ball on the slates now. There is no new outbreak, all that has happened is the previous 'suspicions of infection' on one of the 'dangerous contact' farms has been confirmed as positive ... the day after the cull on all birds on all 5 farms had already been completed.

 

3 new Zones go in force dated today 19th Nov - these replace the previous order dated 12th Nov , which means our flippin 21 days and 30 day restriction periods start again afresh from today.  >

 

Screaming bloody bureaucracy.  >  >  >

[Guest Thunder Birds]

Why doesn't the government do something about stopping the trade in dodgy stock from Eastern European Countries with lesser restrictions on hygeine and welfare - I know it's big money but didn't they learn last time when Bernard Matthews had all those dodgy turkeys - it was Bulgaria wasn't it?! Then putting restrictions on areas when wild birds - crows, magpies, seagulls can just come and go as they please! madness!

[Pompey Mick]

DEFRA's only policy in these outbreaks is to retain Public confidence in the poultry industry. To do this they insist on calling these outbreaks 'Bird Flu' when it is primarily 'Poultry' Flu. They persist in trying to lay the blame on wild birds when in reality it is a poultry disease spread by the poultry industry.

http://www.carolinelucasmep.org.uk/news/BirdFluRep_030706.htm

Unfortunately to the Public a bird is a bird and DEFRA's much trumpeted ban on bird 'gatherings' is just a pure Public Relations exercise because it has little or no effect on the real threat of poultry movements because they are usually moved a flock at a time to poultry processing plants or other holdings, and not classed as gatherings. The major effect is to the specialst bird showing enthusiast who has seen a seasons preparation thrown in the air for no good reason.

To ban the cage bird show was a disgraceful action to take, how on earth can caged birds pose any risk in spreading Avian Flu?

Likewise Racing Pigeons, what possible evidence has DEFRA got to show that having domestic racing pigeons seperately caged within a hall will pose a risk of spreading Avian influenza in this country.

DEFRA refuse to acknowledge the latest scientific evidence which shows that the pigeon is highly resistant to this virus and does not pass it on even when artifically infected.

How does mainland Europe react? are there bans on 'gatherings' over there, because a lot of Northern Europe is a lot closer to this outbreak than a lot of Britain, the Animal Health Ministries in mainland Europe seem to have a better understanding of this disease than our counterparts.

[chickadee]

DEFRA's only policy in these outbreaks is to retain Public confidence in the poultry industry. To do this they insist on calling these outbreaks 'Bird Flu' when it is primarily 'Poultry' Flu. They persist in trying to lay the blame on wild birds when in reality it is a poultry disease spread by the poultry industry.

http://www.carolinelucasmep.org.uk/news/BirdFluRep_030706.htm

Unfortunately to the Public a bird is a bird and DEFRA's much trumpeted ban on bird 'gatherings' is just a pure Public Relations exercise because it has little or no effect on the real threat of poultry movements because they are usually moved a flock at a time to poultry processing plants or other holdings, and not classed as gatherings. The major effect is to the specialst bird showing enthusiast who has seen a seasons preparation thrown in the air for no good reason.

To ban the cage bird show was a disgraceful action to take, how on earth can caged birds pose any risk in spreading Avian Flu?

Likewise Racing Pigeons, what possible evidence has DEFRA got to show that having domestic racing pigeons seperately caged within a hall will pose a risk of spreading Avian influenza in this country.

DEFRA refuse to acknowledge the latest scientific evidence which shows that the pigeon is highly resistant to this virus and does not pass it on even when artifically infected.

How does mainland Europe react? are there bans on 'gatherings' over there, because a lot of Northern Europe is a lot closer to this outbreak than a lot of Britain, the Animal Health Ministries in mainland Europe seem to have a better understanding of this disease than our counterparts.

 

So is a swan classed as poultry?

[Guest]

 

So is a swan classed as poultry?

 

The definition given at the beginning of the AI (England) Order 2006 is:-

 

“poultry” means all birds that are reared or kept in captivity for the production of meat or eggs for consumption, the production of other commercial products, for restocking supplies of game or for the purposes of any breeding programme for the production of these categories of birds;

 

So 'poultry' seems to be a general term for any kind of bird raised in captivity specifically for the human food chain, direct or indirect. So don't think a swan would qualify, besides couldn't get a big enough plate to serve it on.