Guest bigda Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 i don"t think the duplication in to the the falaise race was a help or the national going with us as there was no reduction in birdage, also to cover all the pools that week involved 5 levels of pooling from national, club, fed, three bird, and social and the prize money for falaise to the winner was not much better,i feel all sponsor money should go to the winner and no section winners the reason for this is if alls fair with the time into distance that we are told, whats the problem with having one winner :)
rednyellow Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 could the lanarkshire fed have had a 500ml race without being convoyed by the national?
ALF Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 could the lanarkshire fed have had a 500ml race without being convoyed by the national? Dont see why not as we've never had any problems before
frank-123 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 it might have been better bigda if you had a pooler 5 times the money thought lanarkshire members done really well in the race seemed to keep the birds coming up the west not the big east drag everbody was scared off if if you remember it was a strong north west wind i hope the duplication goes ahead next year and i get a timer as for prize money don't think you can move the goalposts after the race
rednyellow Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 national usually has between 350-450 birds in the west section,i think 800 plus birds from the feds in the west,without duplication i think lanarkshire would have found it very hard to ask fanciers to split their team after such a hard season,myself personally i think it was a success with 27 west birds featuring in the first 100 open snfc result. :)
Guest bigda Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 i would cut out prize money, thats for the winner, the only money to win is from pooling birds if you want to pool and that would be determined from total collected at 25/1 so first come first served basis no passengers after all, you all want to win don"t you and should you win the race you will be able to buy something with it like beans on tic :)
me Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 could the lanarkshire fed have had a 500ml race without being convoyed by the national? Of course they could how many times has the SNFC taken the Lanarkshire fed across the water. Daft question really redyellow!
Guest bigda Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 would you not fly for pools of "£250 winner takes prize money £1,500+£ 250 pools a 1,000 birds at £10 pay out first 40 places at £250 per bird that can"t cost any more than it dose now to pool in a race at least it would pay for a few bags of corn instead of £10 and down to 50 places :D
rednyellow Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 Of course they could how many times has the SNFC taken the Lanarkshire fed across the water. Daft question really redyellow!not really that daft "me", i myself flew in the lanarkshire lille race year 2000 then 1400 birds now maybe 400 plus birds would have made the trip, no fed or national in scotland can sustain 500 mile racing individually without amalgamating, the last 4 weeks have shown us this, wee pickles of doos racing from france is not the answer,yes we can stick out our chests and carry on but the cost of all these jaunts from france will again be met by the scottish distance fancier,as in an earlier post 27 birds in the first 100 open national maybe we can get the west back at the top again , heres hoping. ;)
Guest bigda Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 not really that daft "me", i myself flew in the lanarkshire lille race year 2000 then 1400 birds now maybe 400 plus birds would have made the trip, no fed or national in scotland can sustain 500 mile racing individually without amalgamating, the last 4 weeks have shown us this, wee pickles of doos racing from france is not the answer,yes we can stick out our chests and carry on but the cost of all these jaunts from france will again be met by the scottish distance fancier,as in an earlier post 27 birds in the first 100 open national maybe we can get the west back at the top again , heres hoping. ;) if you think lanarkshire is like your selfs your wrong mate lanarkshire is the champions league there seem to be more deflections from your fed than ours in the last two years as is your national at least 25 members that i can mention is there somthing wrong in your camp ;D ;D ;D
Guest redwhiteblue Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 if you think lanarkshire is like your selfs your wrong mate lanarkshire is the champions league there seem to be more deflections from your fed than ours in the last two years as is your national at least 25 members that i can mention is there somthing wrong in your camp ;D ;D ;D What are you talking about you don't make sense (puke)(puke)
Guest bigda Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 What are you talking about you don't make sense (puke)(puke) if it to hard for you to follow ask your mate :'(
Guest redwhiteblue Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 if it to hard for you to follow ask your mate :'( Who's my mate? Big Da no mates
Guest bigda Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 Who's my mate? Big Da no mates i though you where my mate :)
HOMER49 Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 could the lanarkshire fed have had a 500ml race without being convoyed by the national? Hi Lanarkshires Wincanton on our own race cost over £2000 Lanarkshires Falaise with the SNFC race cost £194.00 NO CONTEST Cheers Homer 49
Guest redwhiteblue Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 i though you where my mate :) who r u pm me with your name mate
Guest bigda Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 Hi Lanarkshires Wincanton on our own race cost over £2000 Lanarkshires Falaise with the SNFC race cost £194.00 NO CONTEST Cheers Homer 49 how much to transport 3,000 birds to kelso, otterburn, towlaw swings and roundabouts when the birdage is high
Guest bigda Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 Hi Lanarkshires Wincanton on our own race cost over £2000 Lanarkshires Falaise with the SNFC race cost £194.00 NO CONTEST Cheers Homer 49 we decide if its going to be a race for lanarkshire fed not for the national to decide, if we can"t afford it we should arrange a inland race to suit our fed, distance flying,have there own clubs for the distance, is it now the tail wagging the dog, i think this will need to be addressed at the next lanarkshire agm 60% of lanarkshire prefer inland races anyway don't see the need to send any further with this fed. horses for course's thats what i say ;D
rednyellow Posted July 28, 2008 Report Posted July 28, 2008 if you think lanarkshire is like your selfs your wrong mate lanarkshire is the champions league there seem to be more deflections from your fed than ours in the last two years as is your national at least 25 members that i can mention is there somthing wrong in your camp ;D ;D ;Dbigda,dont understand what you mean, if you read my post i was not knocking lanarkshire fed just pointing out how amalgamation can work be it fed or national and im sure you dont disagree that 27 birds in the first 100 open prizes won by fanciers from the west of scotland is very much a step in the right direction!!! have a wee lie down in a dark room bigda,maybe it will all become clear,no feds no champions league no defections just amalgamation for distance racing. :) ;)
Guest bigda Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 bigda,don't understand what you mean, if you read my post i was not knocking lanarkshire fed just pointing out how amalgamation can work be it fed or national and I'm sure you don't disagree that 27 birds in the first 100 open prizes won by fanciers from the west of Scotland is very much a step in the right direction!!! have a wee lie down in a dark room bigda,maybe it will all become clear,no feds no champions league no defections just amalgamation for distance racing. :) ;) yes totally agree there, there should be a club for the distance, let the distance men stand on there own two feet but not at the expense of the sprint flyer's and middle distance flyer's when at agms and dictating to the sprint men, course there is some who say distance flying is the best but that was the old way our aim is to produce the fastest birds and achieve records too as its as hard to win a sprint race as a long distance race first we have to contend with the amount of birds in the race but to set one up for it is as hard on a consistent basis and get as much out of it as distance flier's do but now the sprint and middle distance fliers are not going to accept second best as there are other outlets if you want distance races the days of the piggyback riding is over lanarkshire will become the place of the sprint and middle distance champions and are not prepared to let tail wag the dog much longer if you think yous are elites at the distance well go and make a name for your selfs in your own and stop trying to duplicate at our expense to save yous from splitting your teams of birds if you cant afford it you should en"t be in it :'(
Delboy Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 if you think lanarkshire is like your selfs your wrong mate lanarkshire is the champions league there seem to be more deflections from your fed than ours in the last two years as is your national at least 25 members that i can mention is there somthing wrong in your camp ;D ;D ;D Champions league ??? Every fed have good and bad fanciers .You are kidding yourself if you think Lanarkshire has a higher percentage of good fliers than any other fed.
frank-123 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 delboy don't know who bigda is but his posts make no sense at all
Guest bigda Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 delboy don't know who bigda is but his posts make no sense at all bart your to thick even to talk to at your club
Guest bigda Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 Champions league ??? Every fed have good and bad fanciers .You are kidding yourself if you think Lanarkshire has a higher percentage of good fliers than any other fed. when i quote my fed thats becasuse thats the one i am in what one are you in, and i havent said any thing about the quality of fanciers in it what i did say was the lanarkshire fed is in the champions leauge under shu rules and thats why i can tell the differance between :) chaff from wheat :X 8)
Guest IB Posted July 29, 2008 Report Posted July 29, 2008 I think joint convoying makes sense. Homer49 shows the financial case for it is sound. What our Fed discovered last year was when the National had an inland race that clashed with our own, our own race suffered, as the birds went to the National, and we showed a loss on the race account. So we went with SNFC to both their inland races this year. And with fewer numbers going across the Channel from Scotland nowadays, there is no other way to keep costs for these race down.
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