sapper756 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Got it mate and one called "Blue Skies" which is brilliant Great good luck, I have taken on this task, but to an adult day centre for learning disabilities, they loved it, I finished the day off by taking the clients and a couple of baskets of doos away for a short toss, and returned to my lofts to see the birds return, this was the highlight of their day
Guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Llyod is 100% correct though Bob, its not the in thing and i have no doubt would be a waste of time, at school i was the only young fancier in the end two from my school ended in pigeons (once the other lad had grown up!) I would target the primary school 9 to 11 year olds - We watched 'Geordie racer' at that age and whilst it didnt make me start in birds when fate played the pigeon card it was at the forefront of my mind and made me understand they werent just flying vermin. The youth of today and even back when i was at school are fickle and have so much more to do that does not require attention 365 days a year. Good luck Chris I don't think for one moment you felt I was knocking the young lad, but I can assure you and him I wasn't. I know kids are fickle and it takes a lot to keep their attention, but would love to get some of them more interested in pigeons, rather than have them get involved in other things which they may end up craving for 365 days a year. It's not going to be easy, especially in today's ever growing society, based on complacency and boredom which inevitably leads to anti social behaviour. If I get one in a thousand involved then I will have achieved something and if we all did that, our sport would be fair set for the future
jimmy white Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Great good luck, I have taken on this task, but to an adult day centre for learning disabilities, they loved it, I finished the day off by taking the clients and a couple of baskets of doos away for a short toss, and returned to my lofts to see the birds return, this was the highlight of their day great stuff , sapper,, i think we could all do our bit, to promote the pigeon fancy,, i beleive we should attract, rather than chase away
PigeonTracker Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Just thinking aloud here Bob, Ian Mckay, is doing a one loft race with the potential of getting schools involved as a syndicate unto themselves, wondering if we could get schools all around the country or at least one from each area to have some kind of involvement, kids go mad for competition and we with most of them on the computer these days they could be easily kept updated how 'their' bird is doing. Also with your school visits a power point presentation might go down well but nothing will beat a good video film as kids would much rather watch that than do sums anyday. Don't be worrying about the questions, they'll come thick and fast. There's hundreds of things you could do to keep them entertained and I for one applaud you for wanting to keep the sport alive, well done.
ChrisMaidment08 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 our hawk centre takes there birds to school but the school would not allow pigeons due to defra nice but maybe it will change in gwent
jakjak Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Hi Bob Don't the RPRA do a selection pack that u can send for,to help with visits to schools ect. yep...contact RPRA.......they helped us with our RPRA registered school loft, and can enter your school in the one loft race as sponsors
Guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 yep...contact RPRA.......they helped us with our RPRA registered school loft, and can enter your school in the one loft race as sponsors Thanks for that. May need to pick your brains for info to get things sorted.
Peckedhen Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Going into a school as a vistor should be OK and you should not need CBR clearance but if you intend to keep going in, say weekly, then you will need it. I think that it is great to get youngsters interested at a young age. Pigeon racing can be tied in with the curriculum in many ways: Geography- flight paths, Maths-distances, velocities, weights, ++cost of feed, numbers produced breeding etc. etc, History- pigeons in wars, Science - life cycle of, looking after animals, what living things need, RE - Noah...... Oh, I could go on and on.....yes, you guessed, I used to be a teacher!! ;D ;D Well done you, good luck. Sue
Guest Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Fanks for dat,................... oooops Spelling, Sorry MIss................. must try harder . Thanks for the information Sue, very much appreciated
Ian McKay Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Hi There I have sent you a PM about this cause Contact me if you want more information Ian
robbiedoo. Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 ive entered a pigeon in ian mckay;s 1 loft race for the westfeild school in fraserburgh.when i spoke to the headmaster about this she was delighted ian is going to send emails to the school about their pigeon and how it is performing on aweekly basis not sure if he is setting up a website about it or not any way the kids will be well informed ive also agreed to either take abasket of pigeons over to the school and do a little talk about them.and maybe take some interested kids over to my loft and show them the pigeons in there nests and do a little Q@A about them
TERRI Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 What a brilliant thought, no doubt you have read my post and post from my sister angel, we are quoted as saying, we feel we need to raise public awareness of the brotherhood of pigeon men around the world and the problems they are experiencing. So why not celebrate and share the pleasures of being part of that brotherhood, at an age where a child is open to pursuasion and willing to learn the skills and values associated with homing, breeding and racing pigeons and skill that will help them in later life. I once worked at a school with children who had Autism, one of the obvious pleasures in their daily routine was when it was their turn to visit the stables or one of the workers pigeon lofts situated near to the school, you could see they loved every minuite of this precious time, interacting with our feathered or furred friends- go for it and start with the children as young as possible, I feel sure you will needed to have a police check, but that shouldn't be a problem, think you can do it on line. Let me know what you decide and how you go on. TERRI
PATTY BHOY Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 take the kids to the loft and see the working`s of everyday life in the pigeon fancoers day,they`ll ever love it or hate it.
THE FIFER Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 where better to start to get the future fanciers than at the schools, its a change from their everyday lessons so you will find most very keen,thats the first step then its up to you to give them an interesting talk and get them interested in the birds, but i think you have to keep at it, one day with a couple of hours visit then no more is soon forgotten,
jimmy white Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 Going into a school as a vistor should be OK and you should not need CBR clearance but if you intend to keep going in, say weekly, then you will need it. I think that it is great to get youngsters interested at a young age. Pigeon racing can be tied in with the curriculum in many ways: Geography- flight paths, Maths-distances, velocities, weights, ++cost of feed, numbers produced breeding etc. etc, History- pigeons in wars, Science - life cycle of, looking after animals, what living things need, RE - Noah...... Oh, I could go on and on.....yes, you guessed, I used to be a teacher!! ;D ;D Well done you, good luck. Sue would agree with you there miss ;D ;D sorry sue,,,,,good post
Taylorsloft Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 ive entered my bird in the kingslea one loft race for the Phoebe fund any moneys won will go to the fund :)
jimmy white Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 where better to start to get the future fanciers than at the schools, its a change from their everyday lessons so you will find most very keen,thats the first step then its up to you to give them an interesting talk and get them interested in the birds, but i think you have to keep at it, one day with a couple of hours visit then no more is soon forgotten, very true,,,but must be said that you certainly do your bit,, with the liberations for the cancer funds,, and the help you put into the pigeon museum ,,all this makes non-fanciers become interested
jimmy white Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 ive entered my bird in the kingslea one loft race for the Phoebe fund any moneys won will go to the fund :) a very great gesture , i sincerely hope the bird does well , i feel that the good in pigeon fanciers shines out in cases like this one, and in fact enhances pigeon fanciers images
Tony Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Hi has anyone ever done a talk about pigeons to a school i have been asked to take mine in but need help on how to go about what to say.
Guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Hi has anyone ever done a talk about pigeons to a school i have been asked to take mine in but need help on how to go about what to say. try lenwadebob
OLDYELLOW Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Although i have never done it , i would get a couple of show pens , couple of nice coloured birds a old racing clock , ets system , ets rings a few old leg rings , perhaps a few fancy birds from a fancy keeper the more props you have the more intrest you will get , try get a liberation photos / film utube has a few U.N.C libs on race baskets get as many props as possible photos ectra and just explain the process from baby getting rung onwards to racing over feild dodging wires hawks and other preditors put a bit of romance into it and the bird battling through to get home and to hopefully win the race hope this helps a bit im sure if you contacted R.P.R.A they may send you the plastic bag packs they give out at country fairs
Guest shadow Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 Although i have never done it , i would get a couple of show pens , couple of nice coloured birds a old racing clock , ets system , ets rings a few old leg rings , perhaps a few fancy birds from a fancy keeper the more props you have the more intrest you will get , try get a liberation photos / film utube has a few U.N.C libs on race baskets get as many props as possible photos ectra and just explain the process from baby getting rung onwards to racing over feild dodging wires hawks and other preditors put a bit of romance into it and the bird battling through to get home and to hopefully win the race hope this helps a bit im sure if you contacted R.P.R.A they may send you the plastic bag packs they give out at country fairs got to endorse what OY has said that is what I used to do many years ago :)
Novice Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 I did a talk once for a Rotary Club. Visual aids are so important especially for children. A couple of birds they can stroke would be good. Emphasise the difference between racers and feral. Include show birds with an example if possible. Mention charity donations particularly for the benefit of adults present.
pigeonboyuk Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 nothing better than a good DVD to show them, it will save you having stage fright and there are some really good ones out there. as oldyellow said, a few coloured doos would go down a treat with the girls and perhaps a few VERY tame racers if you can get them. never baffle kids with too much science they will not be interested or soon lose any they had, go for the competitive streak found in all kids.
THE PRIEST Posted February 12, 2009 Report Posted February 12, 2009 One of the lads in our club has been to the 2 local schools a few times giving a talk. He takes the equipment like baskets clocks rubbers ect. The kids are usualy more interested in touching the birds so he takes some racers and a couple of fantails for them to get hold off. Its a great thing to do , hopefully one or two may catch the pigeon bug when they get older well done for taking it on and good luck with it. PS .. watch out for the kid that asks where the babies come from. :X michael.
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