East winds

[Guest WINGS 04]

well i will not be at the first 2 races and hope to get to the last race ;) ;)

[Guest bigda]

well i will not be at the first 2 races and hope to get to the last race ;) ;)

 

if it came about in our fed  it would give us  a better idea as to  where we race from, as we would have the garanteed money through the membership,  that way  the added  birdage would be  a bonus  to the fed  and with  a quick tally from the extra birds would insure distance races  if the birdage drops  the price dosent,  then we will only need  two geraldys   ;D

[blaz]

we have a few old guys in our club that send mabe 12 birds . to tell them you have to pay x amount even if you dont go . i dont think their pension would stretch to that . so then what do you say to them.

[Guest pigeonboyno1]

It must be better than a west wind with all the rain it brings

[blaz]

as i am on east coast i will take a west wind any day as an east wind will push birds in land a bit .just hope on saturday  it,s not too  strong an east wind  or to cold.

[REDCHEQHEN]

It must be better than a west wind with all the rain it brings

 

it depends which coast you are on - east wind on east coast - fog, fog, and more fog

[Guest bigda]

we have a few old guys in our club that send mabe 12 birds . to tell them you have to pay x amount even if you dont go . i dont think their pension would stretch to that . so then what do you say to them.

 

what  do the old pensioners say to  man u , Chelsea,  Liverpool, and for by  that  there tenner  still is getting them cheap racing, as it cost more to go to a football match and  if they send 12 at the distance they could  be classed as mob flyers ;D

[Guest karl adams]

my birds raced today in a east north east 3 out but the rest come well

[blaz]

 

what  do the old pensioners say to  man u , Chelsea,  Liverpool, and for by  that  there tenner  still is getting them cheap racing, as it cost more to go to a football match and  if they send 12 at the distance they could  be classed as mob flyers ;D

 

well most would say i dont bother with football son all my time and energy goes in to looking after my birds at my age.as for a tenner 12 birds is £4.20 and last race is a £1each.but i will give them your suggestion on Friday and let you know what they say

[pjc]

we have a few old guys in our club that send mabe 12 birds . to tell them you have to pay x amount even if you dont go . i dont think their pension would stretch to that . so then what do you say to them.

 

Our club is 80% pensioners and by paying a fixed flying fee sending or not they know at the begining of the season exactly how much it's going to cost them so they can budget. As i said earlier i wasn't sure about it when i moved here but it works and if your fed made a big loss on the distance races as few sent would you be happy to have to put your hand back in to your pocket and pay a levy?

 

 

[blaz]

if it ment keeping the older guys in yes

[Guest bigda]

they would leave yer fed,  quicker if you levy  them   the distance fancier might feel grieved about this,  but in actual fact he gains from it,  as first he uses the sprint races as   tosses fine pays a tenner,  the  beauty of this is  we are all in it together, the sprint man dose not have the  birds to race out of the distance so,  at that stage he might not send  canceling out the other   case about the distance fancier, and the distance bird can still win the race  so for  anyone  not looking at the full picture  hope i  have cleared that up,  the sprint guys might  bring in  some new birds,   sort of  60-500 milers and maybe  knock the distance man of his  perch   wouldent that  be nice to see  ;D

[WELSH WIZARD]

LISTEN i dont know weather i have had to many coffees tonight but this thread is about east winds not bird costs and fed profits.1 THREAD FOR 1 TOPIC.

[Roland]

what  do you mean roland, if all members pay  Â£10 per race  whats the problem,  if the  go or dont,  thats the rule i would  vote for,  if you dont go you still pay  fair  as the race programe is made up in advance,   just say its a bit like the  football  you pay a  season ticket,   you pay a season ticket to your club £180 =  18 races  with 20 paid birds     and the rest at 10p         got it

 

As usual Bigda you are deliberately missing the point. Point being that ALL RACES, regardless of distance should be covered, not then say Ah, but as only a few send the Distance will vote that you pay the lot of them races your self.... So it is in reality, WE want you to substiside our races that we are interested in as you ARE A MEMEBR of club, but we vote not to pay another £5 per season to support the races you are interested in!

Yes as a club member EWVERYONE should pay the same regardless how many and what distance they want to fly!

Another reason why now 7 have left and just fly the NRCC and NFC or MNFC.

so now that is £910 they don't get and have to fork out the extra, and another 4 - 5 of us next season will add another £650 that they will have to find... Yep selfish and short sighted that... And yes we will then just pay for the races we enter without the extra subsisties to NOT fly their Sprint and Middle distance races. Yep a clever lot to be sure!

[Roland]

Plus the Club fees etc. and Raffle prizes we donate, and the three money raisers I do a year to raise funds for their' winnings... which again is mostly divided into the sprint and middle distance races.

Yep sorry I got sharp... gave them another chance we did... but I am glad I must be stupid.... OR rather acting upon the ligh being shone eh!

[Guest bigda]

here what your saying,  but if you get it voted in at fed level  its a  Â£10 a race  18 races there for every body,  go or not,  your fed  has the money before  the birds go anywhere ;D idealy  the more clubs join the feds  the better  but the one that i fly in  has 500 members  one fed,  could mean  most feds  at the one race point  

[Roland]

We pay £128 all in, that's fees and free birdage. Fine, no prob there. But then to fly the races I'm interested in costs that same as the NRCC or National etc. Might as well just send direct and save the £128. In deed the £128 would in it's self pay for a lot of the races without having to fork out twice. so 10 less at £128 = £1280 divided by the 19 members left :-/ Whereas they could have and should have been fair and every one paid the £130 -£135 each :o Called greed and cutting the nose of to spite the face.

[Fair Play]

Glasgow Fed brought in a new suggestion this year no birdage fee just a one off payment voted in and don't think anyone left because of it

[Guest bigda]

We pay £128 all in, that's fees and free birdage. Fine, no prob there. But then to fly the races I'm interested in costs that same as the NRCC or National etc. Might as well just send direct and save the £128. In deed the £128 would in it's self pay for a lot of the races without having to fork out twice. so 10 less at £128 = £1280 divided by the 19 members left :-/ Whereas they could have and should have been fair and every one paid the £130 -£135 each :o Called greed and cutting the nose of to spite the face.

 

that's  where it all went   wrong when feds where founded  they should  have had  total control  in all races and been able to go all the way them self with out national  clubs  as  the then feds would  have made the races  amalgamations  

for distance racing  with sections  and regions  as  is the case just now with the nationals

[swilcox]

If the cold wind persists then i will only be sending the 2 year olds saturday and this is only because the Lessay Classic is in 4 weeks time.

 

The distance pigeons and yearlings will probaly go the week after and hit Lessay with the WOESRC a week later than the classic.

 

Stuart

[pigeon]

Be carefull lads this week we had a club race from huntingdon in to lincolnshire on sunday as it was a hold over saterday and jesus they is aloud of pigeons missing around here the winners was in on 2hr 15mins n we fly  beetween 84 and 85 miles i had a gd race sent 18 cocks was 2nd club 3rd club 1st 2bird n 5th open up to now got 3 missin 1 reported in milton keynes my mate had 1 reported in portsmouth .....we are ther ageain this week

[Tony C]

Be carefull lads this week we had a club race from huntingdon in to lincolnshire on sunday as it was a hold over saterday and jesus they is aloud of pigeons missing around here the winners was in on 2hr 15mins n we fly  beetween 84 and 85 miles i had a gd race sent 18 cocks was 2nd club 3rd club 1st 2bird n 5th open up to now got 3 missin 1 reported in milton keynes my mate had 1 reported in portsmouth .....we are ther ageain this week

 

I got a Sth Lincs pigeon in (multible winner)Tuesday from your race, like the London pigeons from Sunday they're scattered far and wide.

[Roland]

Glad I didn't send, and not sending again this week.

[Roland]

Bigda wrote quote '............that's  where it all went   wrong when feds where founded  they should  have had  total control  in all races and been able to go all the way them self with out national  clubs  as  the then feds would  have made the races  amalgamations  

for distance racing  with sections  and regions  as  is the case just now with the nationals .'

I agree entirely. I have advocated , am setting the seed for this very same thing. Say £90 each FED member, and then club fees / fund - raiser etc. are upto individual clubs and members.

I am of course being met with hostilety at present. But if one joins a Golf Club for instance they pay£150 or whatever every year before they even hit a ball.

A case of 'Little children help mother' I believe. Ok then I get the silly gripe, yes but if a member is in 2 / clubs he gets free birdage in all three clubs. :-/ :-/ Of course, and that is no different in sending 5 to three club, or 15 to one.... But MOST that aren't in more than one club feel that they are missing out!  :-/ :-/ :o

We must, as far as I am concerned, look after the moher ship first, I.e. the Fed. without that racing would be very hard, except for the so - called nationals!

S