East winds

[REDCHEQHEN]

East winds are forecast for this weekend - for some of you - it will be your first race - what will you be sending ?

 

Last year around this time we had East winds for several weeks

so if you don't send your yearlings - when do you send them ?

 

Its only another 5 weeks for me to the first channel race - 320 miles

[OLDYELLOW]

train , train and train but cant train in seafret   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( if there good enough they'll do it with sun on there backs

[blackdog]

birds will come in east winds o.k,its the cold n.east winds last year that done the damage,

as long as they put the breaks on at the home end they will be fine

[pjc]

we fly from the east so should be in for a fast one!

[OLDYELLOW]

we fly from the east so should be in for a fast one!

 

hope you beat the sea fret  

[pjc]

fingures crossed!

[Guest kev d]

for the last few years we had east winds in may for the nfc first race and with me

being in the west country it,s what i hope for to keep them over the west side and i always

get yearlings comming through some times the east wind is cold some times it,s warm but not all pigeons

like the cold wind comming from the east , we dont get many east winds for the nationals but when they come

you have to make the most of it , you gona be init to win it

[blaz]

all the birds i plan to race this season bar 2.as i am on east coast it does not help . 8 of which are yearlings.

[Guest]

East winds are forecast for this weekend - for some of you - it will be your first race - what will you be sending ?

 

Last year around this time we had East winds for several weeks

so if you don't send your yearlings - when do you send them ?

 

Its only another 5 weeks for me to the first channel race - 320 miles

 

My birds ain't been out yet since last september and I'd like to get the first NFC race, at this moment I don't know when I'll start racing.

But if you are a sprint person, they have to go don't they?? These are the breadand butter races for the short distance men.

[Guest bigda]

 

My birds ain't been out yet since last september and I'd like to get the first NFC race, at this moment I don't know when I'll start racing.

But if you are a sprint person, they have to go don't they?? These are the breadand butter races for the short distance men.

 

nope,  these are the races that  support the club and fed, that gives  the distance man a free  ride  on the back of the sprint man generosity ;D

[Guest]

 

nope,  these are the races that  support the club and fed, that gives  the distance man a free  ride  on the back of the sprint man generosity ;D

 

LOL so does that mean the distance men are cleaning up the sprint races too up your way

[blaz]

 

nope,  these are the races that  support the club and fed, that gives  the distance man a free  ride  on the back of the sprint man generosity ;D

 

bull**** the distance guys in my club pay the same as i do and pay the same as i do to send birds as trainers .so dont talk crap free ride

[Guest bigda]

 

bull**** the distance guys in my club pay the same as i do and pay the same as i do to send birds as trainers .so dont talk crap free ride

 

well ill  prove you both wrong, as albear has just stated hes no racing yet till "he is" ready,  and since the most  sprint birds go to the  early races,   and the distance man  starts to pair up in march  late  he aint going to go  to  the races  that  make the feds money  no is he, the short races pays our fed a profit,  8,000 birds in our fed go,  that's a lot of   money for the fed,  but when it comes to the distance racing  500 doos max and they

dont want to  pay the going rate   :-/  if albear sends 20 at 40p  for the first three races  that's £24 to the fed  he is now that shy,  and he is not the only   one  wearing the same blinkers and if we all adapted to the same way of thinking what  race  would we all decide to  go to

[Guest shadow]

most distance men use the sprint races as training I used too :)

[Guest bigda]

most distance men use the sprint races as training I used too :)

 

500 distance  birds  dont  feed the  fed  and transportcosts :-/

[ALF]

 

500 distance  birds  dont  feed the  fed  and transportcosts :-/

 

But the bulk of the so called distance men probably race more doos in the fed than yourself Bigda

[blaz]

club fed and in my case shu fees still have to be paid . the only time you pay transport fees is when your birds are on it.

[Guest]

 

well ill  prove you both wrong, as albear has just stated hes no racing yet till "he is" ready,  and since the most  sprint birds go to the  early races,   and the distance man  starts to pair up in march  late  he aint going to go  to  the races  that  make the feds money  no is he, the short races pays our fed a profit,  8,000 birds in our fed go,  that's a lot of   money for the fed,  but when it comes to the distance racing  500 doos max and they

dont want to  pay the going rate   :-/  if albear sends 20 at 40p  for the first three races  that's £24 to the fed  he is now that shy,  and he is not the only   one  wearing the same blinkers and if we all adapted to the same way of thinking what  race  would we all decide to  go to

 

Sorry Bigda my fed does not fly distance races, I cost them nothing, when I pay to send in the sprints I subsidise the sprinters pockets not mine :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

 

But the bulk of the so called distance men probably race more doos in the fed than yourself Bigda

 

dont know about that, i race 35 -40 per week out to  huntington   then 6-8 the rest and have sent  over the water

4-6 at times  

[Roland]

Wind with East in it .... no good for man or beast. I'll just let mine loft fly for a while longer. Shalln't even train, let alone race them. Yes the ole cock or hen to keep in averages etc. Another reason I miss the first race or two.... Too many lose too many good birds for both reasons.

[Guest bigda]

 

Sorry Bigda my fed does not fly distance races, I cost them nothing, when I pay to send in the sprints I subsidise the sprinters pockets not mine :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

no no albear you have a motive  its call cheap skating   cheap tossing  in my eyes  and your prepared to  pick your time of payment  is that  no the case  

[Guest IB]

Bigda, I think your complaint lies with Fed management, rather than a section of the Fed membership. Yes you are correct that number of birds fall as season goes on, and yes transport costs should be at least breakeven. For those reasons the birdage in our Fed depends on distance: 5 races at under 200 miles = 30p a bird, 2 races at over 200 miles = 50p a bird, and our 2 Opens (220 miles, 370 miles) are £1 a bird. We also joint convoy whenever possible to keep costs down - a case where being big isn't always best.

[Guest]

 

no no albear you have a motive  its call cheap skating   cheap tossing  in my eyes  and your prepared to  pick your time of payment  is that  no the case  

 

My fed doesn't fly the channel not to subsidise channel racing, so if I want to send in the Fed I pay not only for transport but also prizemoney that the likes of you will compete for. I have no problem with that majority rules it's called democracy.

But you try and tar me with your brush?? I woinder why? I fly with the NFC and BCC across the Channel, so I pay full rate. You put your foot in your mouth mate. ;D 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[BLACK W F]

always find when east in wind you get some dodgy races  also if cold east as rolands says no good to any one  racing yearlings in days like them you can get big losses

[pjc]

as the thread has changed towards racing costs and not east winds i'll add a bit!

When i moved here it was the first time i had come accross the system our fed uses, every flying member in the fed pays a flying fee each week, £6 for 20 birds and 10p a bird over that. This mean the fed know how many members they have and exactly how much money will be coming into the fed each year. If you choose not to send you still pay so those who do send are not subserdising others as they will also be paying!

This means the fed will never get into financial problems wether 10,000 or 10 birds get sent evrything is still paid for.