strays returned by you

[Guest numpty01]

now lets hear why you wont or dont send strays home  i have for years notifeid all strays to rpra or other unions but am i daft the last two were nothing but hassel for me and others the one i had to arrange transport and drive 80miles round trip to relay bird did owner let me know it got there nope and did he thank me nope the other was here fortnight untill myself and pjc arranged its delivery home were we thanked nope . i do feel sometimes why bother but then i think of bird why should i nut it if im asked to then im afraid the answer is no  you bred it you own it its not my fault its in my loft even if you take them up road same day they turn back up to you if you keep them the minuite you transfer it its gone ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest numpty01]

noone gets strays in then must be all coming to me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pigeonpete]

have got loads of strays back to there owners, and yes some with some great hassle! i used to catch strays in the town, most were grateful to know there whereabouts, i even took a couple back to their owners myself, then the last straw came end of last year, i phoned this guy up from wales, told him i have got a 2 year old pigeon of yours here, blah blah, he said what do you want me to do with it? if it cant get home on its own i dont want it its been gone 3 months, now he didnt know i was a pigeon fancier or not! he said kill it, then hung up on me!! well.. i tried phoning him back, but never answered the phone, so i reported exactly what had happend to the rpra! saying i was a non fancier and had picked it up in the town, they were very helpful, so dont know what happend to him! but was there any need for the attitude he gave me? i dont even report pigeons now that come in my loft with no stamp on! they go straight back out! grrr some people. i would love to know the whereabouts of some of my birds, they are stamped and have phone number ring on!

[Guest]

I have always reported any strays I get, and if I was to do what the owner asked I would need a loft 100 foot long. Recently I reported a 2yo through the RPRA, the bird was wing stamped but unreadable, the owner rang me after a week and arranged to come and collect it. When the gentleman arrived, his first words were, it's been a good pigeon for me, done this, done that, but as it has gone wrong and been in another loft, I don't want it, would you like to keep it. I thought here we go again, heard all this a hundred times before. Anyway I said yes, I will keep it, just to keep the peace (he did have the decency to come after it) He then went to his car and handed me an envelope, and said open then when I go. After he had gone I opened the envelope and pulled out 7 prize cards all of which the guy had said the bird had done. It made me stop and think. Sometimes the 'reasons' why people don't want them back are genuine. I have to say that of the hundreds of birds I have reported, this was the first, and only, one who backed up his claims about the bird.

Sorry for sidetracking the thread slightly, but it goes to show that because so many fanciers "bullsh*t, and can't be bothered to get birds back, many pigeons just don't get reported. Another case of the fancy shooting itself in the foot.

[pjc]

reporting them isn't worth the hassle, feed them then toss them if old birds. I do report youngsters as they make misstakes but normally met with the usual excuses!

[Guest numpty01]

yep fed winner nat winner loads wins in club top breeding anything but send for it i had rutter bros bird went back ali bros went back sherpard kill

[pjc]

The difference with your example Bob is the owner took the time and effort to make the trip to you, if you'd had said no, he'd have taken the bird home!

The bird numpty mention and i took to Oxford sat at my parents house for another 3 days before the owner bothered to fetch it bearing in mind he had told numpty he would arrange collection  nearly 2 weeks earlier!

[Guest]

i got 2 strays in last week and got them home without any cost to thier owners

i met the NE lorry at 11.00 pm on a friday night

1 was a NE stray the other from fife

the fife bird was picked up off the lorry by its owner

 

its easy if you can use the transporters

wish some more would use them

 

dave

[Guest numpty01]

yes we sent liverpool birds on there transporter but lot feds wont allow strays on board if they did it would solve lot problems

[pjc]

it would be great if some form of network could be set up to move strays around on transporters but stricktly speaking they are not allowed to!

Any strays carried on transporters will be carried against the DEFRA regulations!

[Guest]

The difference with your example Bob is the owner took the time and effort to make the trip to you, if you'd had said no, he'd have taken the bird home!

The bird numpty mention and i took to Oxford sat at my parents house for another 3 days before the owner bothered to fetch it bearing in mind he had told numpty he would arrange collection  nearly 2 weeks earlier!

 

Yep quite right Phil, I was just making a comparison. The sad fact is that the vast majority, just cannot be bothered with the hassle of collecting reported strays and that has a knock on effect, where, because of p*ss poor excuses, fanciers cannot be bothered to report them.  :-/ :-/

[cemetary]

I try and get the strays back to the fanciers free of charge if i could, but what makes me sick is when you here them saying its done this and that, would you like to keep hold of it, well mate NO i have ma own birds to look after.

 

If the bird belongs to you, its your responsibility to have the bird collected or picked up.

 

There is people out there who would go out there way, but there is a few that *expletive removed* it up for all.

[Fair Play]

I started out this year with 42 yearlings now down to 20 all birds carry a ring with telephone no, to date had one reported offered to collect but caller said he would keep it for a couple of days then toss it and would ring to let me know - never heard a thing although I phoned and was told he was going to let the bird go from his work and would phone - never heard. I have just had a fly-away of 26 youngsters all carry a ring with contact No - will be interesting to see how many are reported

[Guest]

I'm afraid IMO that a bird carrying a race ring and no ID sums up the fancier he has come from, lazy. Its not just the fact that the owner has "forgot" to stamp the bird, its also the fact what else has he forgot to do, the mind boggles? If they cant be bothered why should i?

 

Any with ID i have always reported, most end up same way, as i never keep birds no one else wants.

 

BTW have never binned a YB stray that was healthy, only talking OB here.

[Guest spin cycle]

none this year so far ...about 5 last year and 1 transferred to me . the unwingstamped ones were the most hassle.

[Guest scoobybob]

Had my droppers out last week and a racing pigeon dropped onto the loft with them. The bird was dark cheq pied and had a stamp with phone number in Yorkshire. I gave the chap a call and he was telling me how good the parents were and how good the strays youngsters were and it was strange how this bird could not race to save his life. The bird was sent to Coventry to race back to Yorkshire but seems it went the wrong way and ended up in Bristol. The owner did not want the bird back as the postage was too much for him. I said I would feed and water the bird and send him on his way the next day. It was lucky I had a spare Section in the loft doing nothing.

Next day I released the bird and up it went and headed north.. I wondered if the bird would make it back to Yorkshire. No it would not, after an hour my droppers were out and the stray came flying in like a rocket it went through the group of droppers and shot by the loft twisting and turning missing the loft by a few feet. Circled round and dropped on the loft. I let the bird out every day but he shows no sign of wanting to go. So looks like I’m using a 6 X 5 section of my loft for one racing pigeon. Perhaps I should find a hen for him...

[ALF]

I've got an ayr north road yearling hen in she was badly flown down ( she's ok now ) and has a good bit of her wing missing were percy has had a go at her but i'll take her to work tomorrow and get my wee mate Danny to let her go in Kilmarnock in the afternoon and hopefully she'll make it home ok

[ally mac]

I have actually had 3 in the last 2 years up here. Delivered 2 of them down the raod myself as I around Glasgow area reasonably regular with work and family. I enjoyed seeing their lofts and birds and picking their brains so it was no hardship atall.  . 3rd one was a bit more hassle to get away and no gratitude atall.

 

Al.