Clocking multiple pigeons

[VAGIN]

How many fanciers would knock back having the first eight in a national race come on come on be honest

[Guest Wee Gaz]

Well done  

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How many fanciers would knock back having the first eight in a national race come on come on be honest

 

well i wouldn't....but i thought we were talking about club racing and perhaps smaller clubs at that.

[The Navigator]

 

well i wouldn't....but i thought we were talking about club racing and perhaps smaller clubs at that.

 

Agree, national and classic racing is completly seperate. I am talking about club and fed races were the bread and butter fanciers are who support the club, but are not the best fanciers and sometimes a card keeps them going.

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when i look at a classic/national result....i look for the fancier high up in the result but who has only sent a few. to me thats a good flyer.

[Chris Little]

Only talking about club / fed racing here.

 

Real national racing is a different story altogether, yet to see guys get 9 in a drop 500 miles ;D

[THE FIFER]

in my view the only way to limit winners would be to limit entries, we are trying to get pigeon racing recognised as a sport, its not a sport if someone gets a place when there were multyple birds in before it because you are only allowed to time in so many, the next thing we will be saying in football only the first three goals a team score are counted,  :-/

[THE FIFER]

Years ago when i first started racing you wouldnt take 1st six in club week in and week out like some seem to be able to do now had to much competition

 

yes but you didnt get members sending 50-60 birds Rose,

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NEWMAINS.F.C LANARKSHIRE ONE LOFT ONE PRIZE THIS WEEK WINNER HAS FIRST SIX BIRDS IN CLUB SO SEVENTH BIRD GETS SECOND PRIZE ECT.BUT ALL SIX MAY QUALIFY FOR FED. POSITIONS

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in my view the only way to limit winners would be to limit entries, we are trying to get pigeon racing recognised as a sport, its not a sport if someone gets a place when there were multyple birds in before it because you are only allowed to time in so many, the next thing we will be saying in football only the first three goals a team score are counted,  :-/

 

you do get handicapping in some sports though....imagine that everytime you win a little time is added to your 'handicap' and added to your time next race (evil) (evil)

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NEWMAINS.F.C LANARKSHIRE ONE LOFT ONE PRIZE THIS WEEK WINNER HAS FIRST SIX BIRDS IN CLUB SO SEVENTH BIRD GETS SECOND PRIZE ECT.BUT ALL SIX MAY QUALIFY FOR FED. POSITIONS

 

i don't think that is a bad idea scoring the lofts rather than the pigeons

[THE FIFER]

 

you do get handicapping in some sports though....imagine that everytime you win a little time is added to your 'handicap' and added to your time next race (evil) (evil)

 

fair enough but your birds would get their places, and what if you are only allowed to time your first 4 and your 5th bird is a puller or nom bird,

[JADE]

in my view the only way to limit winners would be to limit entries, we are trying to get pigeon racing recognised as a sport, its not a sport if someone gets a place when there were multyple birds in before it because you are only allowed to time in so many, the next thing we will be saying in football only the first three goals a team score are counted,  :-/

 

if your comparing with football then each team starts with 11 players so to make doo racing fair each member should be limited to say 10 birds to count for prizes. (and theres as much chance of that happening as aberdeen winning the spl lol)

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SORRY ALL BIRDS QUALIFY FOR POOLS :) :) :) :) :) :)

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fair enough but your birds would get their places, and what if you are only allowed to time your first 4 and your 5th bird is a puller or nom bird,

 

if after clocking say 10 birds in week 1.....the 2nd week you had a couple of mins added to your times....and you still clocked first 10.....then fair play. especially as the 3rd week it would be 4 mins and so on. of course it couldn't happen 'cos it would be to complicated.....also imagine the fuss if the ets guys didn't want to loose 10 seconds....what would they say about minutes.  

[robbiedoo.]

2 or 3 years ago a fancier from the west of our fed won his club and was realy chuffed in thinking he would get a good fed ticket aswell as it turned out the fed list was full of doos from the east section and he never got on the result .at our club fed proposals i proposed that in the short races members are only allowed to take out 3 birds each but in the middle to long take out how ever much you want it was passed at our fed agm .every body knows especialy with young birds loft location plays a massive part .for the young coming into the game its like topping the fed just seeing your name on the fed result .

[THE FIFER]

 

Yeah and if those not so good fanciers  who are often the people who run and do all the work in the club pack up what you gained you got no club and no where to fly

There were quite a few down here Archie that flew big teams perhaps not as big as people do now but then i think years ago you were more selective about what you bred and what you could afford to keep perhaps for the better more quality less quantity

 

agree on that Rose, I know before you picked a good one for your acccumulater and it went maybe for 1-2-3 weeks, now in my club it is never won and gets raced for in the last race,

[Guest spin cycle]

 

fair enough but your birds would get their places, and what if you are only allowed to time your first 4 and your 5th bird is a puller or nom bird,

 

sorry missed your point with my last post. in the case you describe you ,as the fancier, would have to decide whether to clock the unpooled pigeon (scrapping the pooler) or wait...surely thats the 'skill'. isn't that we aspire to be 'skillful' fanciers

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

I have mixed feelings on this excellent post

 

1st of all you pay your birdage so you time what you want and it gives a true result and the birds the credit they are due

 

2nd if you start with limits on the amount of birds you clock it gives the less fortunate fancier a chance of a ticket and prize money which we are all after but at the end of the day there can only be 1 winner and thats the bird with the highest velocity

[just ask me]

good thread i would agree with maybe a 3 bird limit at club level but all birds going to the fed or national

 

have always taught in bigger clubs why don't they have a 2 league system working on points as its not fair that a new starter has to go up against a top flyer with years under his belt haven't really thought out how it work but maybe something to go on  :-/

[THE FIFER]

good thread i would agree with maybe a 3 bird limit at club level but all birds going to the fed or national

 

have always taught in bigger clubs why don't they have a 2 league system working on points as its not fair that a new starter has to go up against a top flyer with years under his belt haven't really thought out how it work but maybe something to go on  :-/

 

agree regarding the new members etc, as long as they were new to the sport,

[Guest]

Well done Steve, you play the sport how you feel fit not how others think you should regardless how valid thier points there was one who clocked 7 of the first with us this weekend, his fifth bird won the pools so probably the reason why he did it, do you run any kind of pool in your club?

[The Navigator]

Well done Steve, you play the sport how you feel fit not how others think you should regardless how valid thier points there was one who clocked 7 of the first with us this weekend, his fifth bird won the pools so probably the reason why he did it, do you run any kind of pool in your club?

 

Only on certain races Jamie, so it's a seperate issue then.

[pigeonpete]

if it was me id want u to clock away to be honest as id like to know where i stand maybe in the club members first 3 birds count something like that

 

Well done, i think you should clock away, the pigeons have done it for you so deserved to be clocked. thats how you get false results, 1 or 2 clubs round here have the only 2 prizes per loft rule. A guy last year clocked first 7 in the club, (rest for fed honours) but only his first 2 in club counted, yet this other guy who was "3rd" but in reality he was 8th?? :-(

[swilcox]

I had an awkward situattion yesterday, from Minstead i took the 1st 8 positions from 300 birds. It wasnt my intention or was it any great achievement as it was a short race. All the members who sent were on ETS and all let there clocks run, that way its easier to monitor returns, the sect made the decision to put 8 down not me, i would have been happy with 6 as thats the norm.

 

I suggested last year that we had a rule on this however everyone shot me down!!! We are lucky its a very competative club so what goes around comes around so to say but i did feel a little awkward.

 

Well done navigator.

 

Stuart Wilcox