Guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 In 90% of these instances i would agree with you Vincent but there are occasions such as Wetherby last week were you cannot blame the pigeons for not being good enough to get home, what the problem was i still do not know. Have to admit i don't like getting young birds back in the stray basket and fortunately for what ever reason we have only had approx 5 in the last 10 years. Fair enough Gareth,but you cannot dispute the probability of the birds returning to the place of rescue is high regardless of circumstance.So think we all have to move on and write this year off as being a disappointing year as far as young bird racing is concerned.
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 was talking to my mate down the loft tonight and was talking about this topic and the words I said to him was no bird of mine will return to the loft from any stray centre thats for sure ;) In the same breath its great what the guys collecting and delivering the birds are doing and they should get something for doing it
Guest JPH Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 was talking to my mate down the loft tonight and was talking about this topic and the words I said to him was no bird of mine will return to the loft from any stray centre thats for sure ;) In the same breath its great what the guys collecting and delivering the birds are doing and they should get something for doing it yes Greig the guys that do the delivering and the collecting but its not them that gets anything for it they even have to pay to get there birds aswell ;)
big blue bar Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 i agree you will never get a bird to win that comes back from stray centre unless its bean injured :-/
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 yes Greig the guys that do the delivering and the collecting but its not them that gets anything for it they even have to pay to get there birds aswell ;) I know that mate guy in my club done it for the fed last year and was out of pocket
Guest redwhiteblue Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 i agree you will never get a bird to win that comes back from stray centre unless its bean injured :-/ not all birds that go to the stray centre are bad birds i know a pigeon that won the midland open race came out of the stray centre, for the guys who are crying about the price of these birds i hope you all get birds reported and it costs you£30 each bird then you'll be glad of the stray centre!!
Guest JPH Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 not all birds that go to the stray centre are bad birds i know a pigeon that won the midland open race came out of the stray centre, for the guys who are crying about the price of these birds i hope you all get birds reported and it costs you£30 each bird then you'll be glad of the stray centre!!at £30 they still wont go back in loft not all bust most of them always the exeption to the norm but most are not worth getting back
Guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Have not seen many on the national result that have stated came out of the stray centre as a young bird.
Guest redwhiteblue Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Have not seen many on the national result that have stated came out of the stray centre as a young bird. i did not see that on a national result, bird been in a stray basket!
Guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 i did not see that on a national result, bird been in a stray basket! My point exactly. :-/ :-/ :-/
Chris Little Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Some fanciers amaze me, just because a bird has been reported it is deemed as useless I know of at least 2 'strays' in the top ten of this years SNFC Gold Cup result ;)
Guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Some fanciers amaze me, just because a bird has been reported it is deemed as useless I know of at least 2 'strays' in the top ten of this years SNFC Gold Cup result ;) Did they come through the stray centre Chris.?????????????
aye ready Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 not all birds that go to the stray centre are bad birds i know a pigeon that won the midland open race came out of the stray centre, for the guys who are crying about the price of these birds i hope you all get birds reported and it costs you£30 each bird then you'll be glad of the stray centre!! when i was in partnership with another fancier we had a mealy hen that came back in the stray basket from the first race crawford at 39mls.I wanted too dispose of her but my mate said too give her 1 more chance,that hen went on too score at exeter 400mls 4 years on a trot in open racing
Guest redwhiteblue Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Did they come through the stray centre Chris.????????????? does it matter if it came through a stry centre or a box it is still a stry
jimmy white Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Some fanciers amaze me, just because a bird has been reported it is deemed as useless I know of at least 2 'strays' in the top ten of this years SNFC Gold Cup result ;) i quite agree chris,, especially with yb,s ,, their most certainly not all bad birds if my memory serves me right,,,a scottish national race was won by a stray, many years ago,, jock watson kirkliston
Guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 does it matter if it came through a stry centre or a box it is still a stry Probability is low,if you give everything that fails to make the grade a chance you will end up with egg on your face.But each to there own. :-/
Chris Little Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Did they come through the stray centre Chris.????????????? No but they were reported by fanciers, one was reported in Ireland and duly returned.... the other was reported by a local fancier and was told to keep it which he did and was sent to Alencon
Guest Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 No but they were reported by fanciers, one was reported in Ireland and duly returned.... the other was reported by a local fancier and was told to keep it which he did and was sent to Alencon Completely different if the bird returned to the original loft by its own accord.And other point being that the bird could well be better flying to new homing position.But will never be homed in on original position once corrupted
Guest redwhiteblue Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Probability is low,if you give everything that fails to make the grade a chance you will end up with egg on your face.But each to there own. :-/ i think some of the posts have been disrespectful to the boys that have been running their arses off trying to get pigeons back to their rightful owners, i do it for my own fed, collect the strays and take them to armadale and from armadale on a sunday back to my own fed, today i ran thru to edinburgh along with clockman and rembrant2coo and not 1 of us have mentioned money as we are doing it for the sport and for the fancier to get his bird back it is up to him what he does with it after that, please remember if you ever win the national and you lose a young bird off it and it comes to the stray centre you will be thankful for that bird back! ps some of the posts up here i think it is a kick in the balls to the guys who are giving up their time to help fanciers.
Guest Greig the doo Drysdale Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 i think some of the posts have been disrespectful to the boys that have been running their arses off trying to get pigeons back to their rightful owners, i do it for my own fed, collect the strays and take them to armadale and from armadale on a sunday back to my own fed, today i ran thru to edinburgh along with clockman and rembrant2coo and not 1 of us have mentioned money as we are doing it for the sport and for the fancier to get his bird back it is up to him what he does with it after that, please remember if you ever win the national and you lose a young bird off it and it comes to the stray centre you will be thankful for that bird back! ps some of the posts up here i think it is a kick in the balls to the guys who are giving up their time to help fanciers. Well my post wasnt intended to be a kick in the balls to anyone its just my opinion as we are all entitled to
JADE Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 Have not seen many on the national result that have stated came out of the stray centre as a young bird. how many of yours that DIDNT end up at the stray centre have been on the national result? i agree that the majority of strays are no good but then the majority of all pigeons do not win races. by the same token a national winner could go down at its next race. does that make it useless? you guys who boast about what you will do to a stray annoy me. i bet if you got a winner back in a box you would give it another chance
Guest JPH Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 i think some of the posts have been disrespectful to the boys that have been running their arses off trying to get pigeons back to their rightful owners, i do it for my own fed, collect the strays and take them to armadale and from armadale on a sunday back to my own fed, today i ran thru to edinburgh along with clockman and rembrant2coo and not 1 of us have mentioned money as we are doing it for the sport and for the fancier to get his bird back it is up to him what he does with it after that, please remember if you ever win the national and you lose a young bird off it and it comes to the stray centre you will be thankful for that bird back! ps some of the posts up here i think it is a kick in the balls to the guys who are giving up their time to help fanciers.yes m8 but you are not charging anyone and you nare doing all the running around.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 i think some of the posts have been disrespectful to the boys that have been running their arses off trying to get pigeons back to their rightful owners, i do it for my own fed, collect the strays and take them to armadale and from armadale on a sunday back to my own fed, today i ran thru to edinburgh along with clockman and rembrant2coo and not 1 of us have mentioned money as we are doing it for the sport and for the fancier to get his bird back it is up to him what he does with it after that, please remember if you ever win the national and you lose a young bird off it and it comes to the stray centre you will be thankful for that bird back! ps some of the posts up here i think it is a kick in the balls to the guys who are giving up their time to help fanciers. Well done RWB and to all who have spent a lot of time today getting these pigeons back to there owners. 8)
JADE Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 yes m8 but you are not charging anyone and you nare doing all the running around. cos they are doing their bit for the sport which is more than can be said for the likes of you
Guest redwhiteblue Posted August 30, 2009 Report Posted August 30, 2009 yes m8 but you are not charging anyone and you nare doing all the running around. yes m8 i charge a £1 but half it with someone else, on a friday nite i leave laurieston and go to stirling just to collect strays maybe 1 or 20 and take them to armadale, on a sunday i collect them from armadale and take them back to laurieston so yes i am running about but you won't hear me moan
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